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.91126 …when Harry met ………….ChriS.. (another "Grass Routes" special ..not sorry…! <smile>)


no apologies for promoting "follow the (REDS) flag" (webpage under constrcution above)

I just
want to find positive things to do with whats left of my short life on
this wonderful planet inhabited by so many  "CIA" ("c*nts Idiots &
.we may all have one foot in the gutter but some are reaching for the stars"

before I
start this "Grass Routes update" I was watching belgian (Fr) TV channel
3 and suprised me with a programme "the Heysel tradgedy"..

I was
immediately thrown back to that night when I lost my appetite for
footy…and simultaneously I associated an "element" that has
re-attached itself to Lfc in recent years since we started winning
trophies again…the eng-er-land fans and others ;  those that jump on
the bandwagon of pundit opinion…and moan, snipe, or show lack of

(oh and a
tip if U havent watched the film "leaving las vegas" with Nick Cage and
elisabeth Shue ..i recommend it..its fiction, of course, but, theres
more humanity and love in this brief relationship between a "loser"
drunk, who has lost his son and family, job etc and a lonely high class
whore than some "christian married couples" in their whole lives)

So the
REDS are going to be playing this season out in the "Europa league"
with a final in Hamburg…I have good memories of german connections
to  "League/UEFA double-winning"  seasons and when we won the UEFA cup
in 2001 in Dortmund..I have a similar feeling now, mind U, nostalgia
isnt what it once was…


November (911) began with plans of travel..but I had to get a new
gearbox for the "Zbus" which dented my budget to get to Lyon..a guy
prentending to be a fan offered me a lift (RAWK) then "disappeared" and
the REDS could only draw via a goal from Babel and an error let Lyon
equalise to obstruct our progress in the CL (although our injury-cursed
squad had probably "lost it" when conceding 2 late goal at anfield
against them…

"Mission Probable-Berlin"

I had
offrered Harry (HT) to help recover his bike , as HT had initiated 2
charity-related projects, connecting to the "Ray of Hope" appeal ( for
Ray Kennedy, who tragcally had to sell medals to survive) riding a
moped to Madrid and the "Marina Dalglish" (cancer) fund …and when he
mentioned that he was looking to recover his "sick" motorbike from
Berlin (RAWK) I proposed to meet him at Lyon and bring him back to my
place so that we could pick his M-bike up when the "Zbus" was
ready…(although the bus was ready on the day I had a suspect tyre so
Harry told me he would make his way back to the Flemish cabin from
Lyon…"by lifts from Reds or hitch-hiking"…

I have
recently acquired a"USB" stick that enabled limitred sms/email traffic
from the cabin, so was waiting on news from HT , suggesting he met at
"Macs" in nearby Turnhout (be) …HT couldnt seem to give me accurate
"eta" so I was a bit nervous that he (whose health is not great) might
have difficulties in finding the way or even arriving that night. about
20h an sms from HT announced his arrival near Turnhout so I started to
drive to the irish pub (about 20 minutes away) …I asked the barmaid
"have U seen anyone looking for me" (but she didnt get the joke) and a
very relieved and exhausted HT came through the door some 15 minutes
later having got lost in the town..a pint of Guiness helped and back to
the cabin to chill out (or warm up in his case) and a few bevvies
before HT could get some much needed rest..

agreed to
take it easy that weekend so HT could recover a bit of strength before
we went to Berlin to pick up his m-bike in  my Zbus,,,we had a few mild
"bevvy sessions" at the ZonderEigen cafe and at the cabin and I cooked,
made a change having someone different to test my "cuisine creativity"
on, well, no complaints from HT as he cleaned his plate every time, or
he was just hungry..<smile> watched a bit of Telly and the dvd
"man of the year" a good political black-comedy about the USA…(money
buys everything) "democracy" /..(mind U the footy fourm sounded almost
the same,,.,) and "Magnolia" about "connections and circumstances" the
intro was interesting in itself..on sunday , woke too late for watching
the local footy so,
did a "tour" of the frontier town of Baarle trying to get HT his
"baccy" . on monday I complained again to my ISP of blocks & delays
to my emails/sms/FB messages etc..and Macs irish pub did NOT show the
footy v Brum (2-2 goals from NGo-al and SG) but we found by accident
that Gunther already had the footy channel installed at the ZonderEigen
cafe!, mind U he only told us 5 minutes from the end after we had
another belgian"bevvy session" (duvel!) and scared him with a loud
"exchange of ideas"

Tuedsay ,
apart from a belgian detour near the cabin (Merksplas) and tanking we
only had one other delay in the "Zbus" to Berlin, traffic slowed just
past Hannover…so as 700kms had gone so well I suggested to HT we load
his bike and drive straight back, (as I also guessed we would be out on
the town if we stayed) & we loaded at Neils (MADreds) brother paul
& mate phillip’s flat within an hour or so, were back on the road,
so, only 2 and a half tanks of diesel and 1400 kms round trip , we
"landed" back at the cabin by 05hrs…crossing the frointier twice ;
avoiding machine-gun posts etc and with only 2 pee/coffee stops…what
a team!…what a Zbus! ……..
"mission probable- Berlin completed" …we had travelled 1400 kms without a mobile, no door locks and a dodgy tyre!

HT decided
to leave the m-bike in the cabin garage and although we recovered from
the allnight-no sleep trip a bit on wednesday he re-assembled most of
the m-bike for me to take over next month (HT to pay for the ferry and
I pay my diesel..as I was probably going to try to get to a couple of
home games..Flo & Ar*e-nal …though HT said he might get me a
"complimentary " ticket…I was pleased to help him..and me..although
the locking system  (which went pear-shaped when we were in Berlin) and
the faulty tyre valve needs sorting..)  Thursday evening HT wanted to
invite me to a session  at the Ze cafe..we were talking about "scaring"
Gunther (again) with a contrived arguement, & ended up in a
conflict about elite-splitters on the web forums and I commented about
the same in society..(people escaping to their island instead of
confronting the wrongs in the society) …in spite of my offer to take
him to Antwerp or Geel in the morn, HT left at mnidnight,,by
thumb..(hes another Gem..)

following weeknd seemed "quiet" without HT, so I tried to make a path
in from of the garage so i could park the Zbus in the dry, and sunday
took manager Dix to watch Fc ZonderEigen, with Robbie & Kurt (pen)
getting the goals in a difficult away game (thats what I loved..winning
away, and pray the REDS get back to it soon)…..had a couple of
bevvies with the team before coming home…found meself talking to the
chickens again/..("fergie" , "whenger" and "jose".)  the following week
constantly having to pump up the tyre meant the value needed replacing
urgently., .my xxxx JD decided to bother me with emails, so I "ended"
it with her..again (she hadnt contacted me in months, so guess who is

ING bank
(nl) actually replied to my complaint and gave me e200 "compensation"
for lost travel due to their errors, most of the time people think I am
mad to complain but this written apology actually could open the door
for me to claim for all my damages…why dont you peoples join me?…


lucky ….I was at the garage again making a pathway and heared "beep,
beep, beep", a  rare sound in this remote forest cabin
area..<smile>…I thought it was a mobile phone or a car alarm in
the distance..then suddenly, realised it was the cabin smoke
alarm!…..I ran back faster than I had in years…even from about 20
metres I could see the flames, and in those seconds, my thoughts went
to .."The Cabin…gone?…all my stuff..gone?…a log had literally
"jumped" almost a metre to the wall and caught fire to the painted
wallpaper and the wooden stool, and the flames were only cm’s from the
plastic veggie shelves and WOODEN kitchen..(by the time any firemen had
got to this remote cabin, the cabin, its contents..and me (had I been
sleeping) would all be gone..)

luckily I
caught it in time, supressing the flames whilst covering my face with a
towel..a few hours of open windows and cleaning up and all the damage t
be seen was a small hole in the carpet by the stove and some missing
wallpaper,,(though the burnt paint left smells and stains that needed a
good clean-up)

 ..very lucky …but I have been havent I?…how many times ..a bottle
went through my eye with glass near my brain removed by operation when
I was only 5 years old, (6 month "blind" in hospital) 3 car (write-off)
crashes .., the week-long meningitis coma (not expected to wake up)
…??? hmmmmm….

though that I didnt get to Budapest..where  had visited 20 years
previously for a round table formation..(they had their first strike in
25 years after the Berlin  wall cam down) ..but that was a great
weekend despite the chaos, this time my tyre went flat and I did not
find a way to get to Chareroi airport in time (160 kms from here) as
there are no night buses or trains..I had planned a good trip, staying
at "home made hostel" and due to meet REDS from the belgian Lfc fan
clubs and the Polish group and of course Ferenc and the
Hungo-REDS..(hungry REDS? <smile> ) although my journey (with
nasty Ryanair to Bratislava, then train to Budapest wasnt simple) I
didnt know about the wizz air direct flights from Eindhoven until it
was too late,,I hope I can get back there soon..maybe for Xmas as I am
alone this year…

I have
since been keeping my body "fit" with running to the shops or biking
and for my head I have aired my ideas about the REDS and watched the
game v "2nd hand manc rent-boys" ("citeh") ..when another 2 players
(dAgger and Babel) were INJURED in the first 15 minutes .(@Macs).we
need to lift this injury CURSE soon to get back to the top where we
belong..I stll have hopes of winning the 2 LEAGUES; "Europa" and the
PREMIEREship this season, of all clubs "come-backs" are the REDS
speciality. (my other "ideas" are stated below..had a heavy-bevvy
session with the fc ZE team on sunday which I didnt recover from until
monday which helped take my mind of the struggle…

then talking of struggle, we come to my estranged little girl…..


This is a message i sent to all FB friends…

(and an email exchange with a neighbour of margit ( my estranged little girls mother)

Diana, …my estranged little girl (Noela) has her 8th birthday on
friday (28 november) -I would be very grateful if you and your network
send birthday cards to the last known address below..(I have had no
news and not held her in my arms since she was 3 years old!) ; Noela;

c/o M. Streifeneder, 49 St. Lawrence Road, Clontarf, DUBLIN, Ireland. 

ChriS91126>dear Janice,

commiserations on your loss, and thanks very much for bothering to let me know..

(i am not surprised that margit dont answer the door she has a guilty consience and thats nothing to do with money..)

I know its
not anything positive for me, but in my situation any little bit of
news helps..I didnt get those emails – my other ISP got blocked and
(although it seems like paranoia) I am sure my emails have been blocked
or delayed generally, Sgt Sexton didnt reply to me, or friends who
tried to explain my position or even communications from NGO’s are
ignored, I know local police dont like these things,,because its
obvious injustice, Margit can just go to court, without me having to
there, say what she wants or needs to say to get me excluded and I dont
even get told whats happened because she lies and says amongst other
things that I am always travelling…I spent years trying to get
justice in Freiburg and when she realised she could lose she moves to
Dublin, I just dotn have the resourcse to pour money into fighting an
unjust system to get the rights I should have by all common and
international law

 ..and I
know if I win anyway she will just move on..the system effectivey
allows (and in some way protects) virtual kidnapping..people have told
me to do the same, but unlike Margit I couldnt put Noela in the middle
of a violent struggle..as much as it tears me apart to know that I
probably will never have the relationship a father shoudl have with his
kid..and i love her so much, I am sorry that I bothered U so much with
this…but its difficult to know what else i can do, its caused rifts
in my relationships since because maybe I now almost expect women to
betray me..and most people dont see this side of things they only talk
about "deadbeat" dads but dont realise there are hundreds of thousands
of estranged parents (mostly male) around the world with  kids that DO
want to give and support their children with a full & natural
relationship, ah, I have gone on a bt much,,,obviously I dont even know
if margit and Noela still live at n. 49..but if U see or hear ANYthing,
I would be eternally grateful..take care, I wish U and yours all the

ChriS x

> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:11:11 +0000

> From: autumnleaf@eircom.net

> To: eured@live.nl

> Subject: Re: S7-LT 91122 Hello Janice – ref Noelas birthday


> Hi Chris,

> Sorry I have been away for a few days, the only reason I came back was because my husbands sister died.

> I do
not have the presents anymore, I gave them in to the police station to
be given to sargent Sexton at the end of March or begining of April I
cannot remember exactly when. I put them in a bag stapled it and
stapled a letter I typed explaining the situation to him. I heard
nothing back from him.

Before I did this I e-mailed you telling you what I was going to do but
you never replied. I got no replies to any of the e-mails I sent.

> I presume now that you did not get them.

> I
went up most days to no. 49 and knocked and knocked on the door but no
one ever answered. I heard people walking down the stairs and along the
hall so I knocked louder but still no one answered. I did this on and
off from the new year until the middle of March when I decided to give
up. I have been told since that no one opens doors in apartments or
shared houses because it could be someone coming to collect a debt.
Apparently people only open the door when they have gotten a call from
who ever it is that is coming.

> Sorry to hear you have had no response from the guards.

> I cannot imagine what it is like for you but I hope you get it resolved someday.


> Kind regards


> Janice


"Shanks" ….

Shankly came to LIVERPOOL 50 years ago like a football "messiah" but he
is so much more to me, a mentor and a social example that kids today
should care about…how to believe and make people committ to the
"positive"  ..

"he made
the people happy" is written on his statue, but in fact he did MUCH
more;  he gave people HOPE and belief to take themselves out of
ordinary lives and become bigger than their dreams..

the Famous
manchester united player Geiorge Best wrote in his autobiography about
"Shanks"….. when Best complained casually one day before the rival
teams met, to Shanks about not being paid well but being hounded by
paparazzi …

Best>’Fame, son,’ Shanks told me, ‘is the price you pay for doing your job well.’

Best goes
on " A few years later I was to understand the full implications of his
words. It seemed every time I met Shanks he would come out with at
least one piece of worldly wisdom or humour. When I was about to
renegotiate a contract at Old Trafford and intimated that I would be
looking for a considerable rise in basic pay, Shanks gave me a long
hard look. ‘George, son, some advice,’ he said. ‘Don’t be too
demanding, because it’s a sad fact of life that genius is born and not

In 1967,
we arrived at Anfield to play Liverpool and as I glanced out of the
window of the coach I saw Bill Shankly standing at the main entrance. I
was the first player to alight from the coach and when I reached the
entrance Bill shook my hand warmly. ‘Good to see you again, George,’ he
said. ‘You’re looking well, son.’

This was
unusual for him, and knowing Shanks to be a wily old fox, I decided to
hang around to try to find out what he was up to. As each of the United
players entered Anfield, Shanks shook his hand, welcomed him and told
him how good he looked. Eventually, Bobby Charlton, a born worrier,
came up to Shanks.

son. Good to see you,’ Shanks said, shaking his hand. ‘But by God, if
ever there was a man who looked ill, it’s you, Bobby!’

face went as colourless as an icicle. ‘Ill? I look ill?’ he repeated,
running the fingers of his right hand over his forehead and down his
right cheek. He was visibly shaken,

Bobby, son. You look like you’re sickening for something. If I were you
I’d see a doctor as soon as you set foot back in Manchester.’ Shanks
patted Bobby on the back and took off down the corridor, leaving him
trembling in the foyer.

In the
dressing room, Bobby was conspicious by his absence and, ominously,
there was a delay in announcing the team. We sat around kicking our
heels, no one daring to get changed in case Matt Busby had a tactical
plan which meant leaving one of us out. The thought of getting changed
only to be told to put your clothes back on because you’re not in the
team is a player’s nightmare.

Matt Busby entered the dressing room with Jimmy Murphy and told us they
had reshuffled the team which had beaten West Ham the previous week.
Bobby Charlton was unavailable. He’d suddenly been taken ill."


my messages to REDS…

a) on the subject of Supporter-owned Club..

Quote from: xerxes1 on November  5, 2009, 12:31:32 PM

Fry is right. And if you look at Newcastle and Leeds, even mid table,
then relegation may not stir the masses, people just drift away.

I do not doubt your sincerity. I do offer some tough love. The reason
why G&H still own the club is beacuse no-one is prepared to pay a
price sufficent to prompt them to sell. Few fans would wish to pay them
off at a price the market is not prepared to pay.

reason why SOS & SL have failed to become movements actively
supported  and financed by more than a few thousand is the rest can’t
be bothered.

"Support" means different things to different people. We have 26,000
season ticket holders ( about the same as Villa and Newcastle) who
won’t boycott or protest, the season ticket is the be all and end all (
and I respect that).

have 4000 "corporate" ( boxes/ hospitality/ meal) tickets, much lower
than our competition who are happy with a ticket ,as well as what they
have got. That only leaves 11,000 tickets  a game of "matchday
support".The illusion of 1,000,000 "fans" has to be counterbalanced by
the facts.

    To dismiss reality is not helpful. Rome was not built in a day – but it was built with bricks and mortar…


I dont want to build Rome, I dont believe in concrete, almost all the
major success i have seen or made in my life have been through a basic
belief – things done for other than "concrete" or material reasons..

ok mate, lets actually discuss this instead of throwing spanners into the "werks" ;)

I know it
can be done,  there are enough examples in history , corporate or sport
…we need a domino effect – to get a group going and ONE of the
reasons i am working on getting this going abroad is that too many
"locals" look for any reason ("excuse") ..NOt to do it..and those that
claim that they are doing it (ShareLFC?/SOS?) dont have the experienec
or the dynamic necessary..

I have
been told myself to "give up" on several occasions – I was "finished"
before I woke up after a week-long meningitis coma and suprised the

"senior" person told me not to start my own business in 1979..within 24
months I had made over a GBP million profit with a start up of 500

time I got hold of a group of electronic/installation companies that
was valued by the administrator at almost a million quid for GBP 70k
…simply by playing " poker" with the other side..

I co-launched the "human shields"…(oops)

at the
same time i am (since 15 years) experienced in not-for-profit
activities where "miracles" have to be achieved with little or zero

I have a global network of contacts – which seems to make people insecure..which I could tap in ONCE "something" got going..

maybe U
are one of them, maybe not, but the only effect that the "alienation"
has on me is to not bother to talk to Lp-based fans…I love LIVERPOOL
the team, the manager, the TRUE supporters (wherever they are born) ,
but I am , like Shanks, Kenny, Emlyn , etc etc etc an "alien" who
landed into ths lifetime love affair – its the only constant in a life
that lost family and all those I loved over the years..U dont need to
read this, but I am telling U anyway..because I have found that
sometimes an "enemy" that I understand is more worthy than "friends"
that dont dont understand me..and are so easily insulted that I dont

I dont
love the "club" because IMO things have always been wrong off the field
even in our best days on it.- I LOVE everything intangible – spirit,
the "craic"  the "come backs" and "bonding" I have had with REDS all
over the globe – its been MY life  .IF there was a way I could show the
TRUE REDS on RAWK what I KNOW can be done, I would , as I dont need or
want to "profit" so I just have to do my Utmost to make it happen in
another way..and I wont give up until it happens, or the planet boils
over <smile>

as we
approach the 50th anniversary of Shanks arrival…we should remind
ourselves what he achieved..and apply ourselves with the same spirit,
dynamic and sheer conviction that he had,,THAT would be the BEST way to
honour the man and what he gave US??

YNWA! (with HOPE in y-our heart)

b) Mentality..

of all, whatever personal opinions are , its VITAL that we give 100%
support to Rafa and the team-squad for the rest of the season, anything
else is obviously counter-productive…

If I am
correct in the info prior to Rafa’s arrival he won la Liga and the Uefa
cup ine one season by having virtually TWO seperate teams playing in
the league and europe..I feel that that (whatever the remaining results
in the CL are ) this makes so much sense considering the massive injury
problems etc, we have had since the season commenced…

Rafa plays our BEST team, in the Premiereship, and a 2nd /fringe team
in the other 2 competitions…this may upset those (me amongst them)
that value Europe, or the FA Cup, but I feel that ONCE we have won the
PL once , we can "relax" and go on and build a trophy-winning dynasty
with Rafa & Kenny together and NOT cause the SPLIT that some fans
are screaming for, we were World-Beaters only a few months ago, and
with our best players back we shall be again, soon, BUt I urge Rafa to
resist the tem[ptation  and pressure from media and fickle fans and
simple SAVE our best for the PL – that means (say)  SG & our kid,
Pepe, Masch, dAgger, benny, and fabio (?) ONLY playing PL games and the
remainder of our very large squad fighting for the chance of playing
europe/fa cup..this also may give us a better chaance of blodding
younger/new players withotu the intense pressure of the PL  games…

especially young people need to have GOOD examples, not to be
indoctrinated with the "me me me" and "money is all" mentality…care
for others, be honest, do the best U can, and dont give up…Virtue,
loyalty dignity, truth, justice and….<smile> humour (and not
"bitter sniping") are vital to LIVE…otherwise the word LIVE is
reversed and becomes…EVIL…

oh and a few  words for all of U that believe the mainstream  media …

If you don’t read the newspaper you are uninformed , if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed .

– Mark Twain

notes (this months recommended dvds)

"leaving las Vegas"

"Return to sender"

"Reconstruction" (Scan)

"The life of David Gale"


"my house in Umbria"

BIG complaint v b(w)ank ING (dutch owned) :-

Without Prejudice

to (w)bankING – for the attention of Cheif Exec Jan Hommen

DEAR Jan Homman

COMPLAINT & Claim against you and ING joint & several

I was (force) "introduced" to ING because I was using postbank (in Be & NL)  in the last 3 years. and claim:-

1. That it
IS a violation against "ordinary people" (low income or economy-level)
and (IMO) is a "veltvet facist" method to remove local banking / post

( by the time I moved from NL 6 months ago there wrer NO facilities where I could pay in cash or make a manual transfer.

2. That
during 6 months ING FAILED to operate an account (Zw) for my "not
-for-profit" organisation which indicates DISCRIMINATION based on ING
political/religious bias.

(I have
received a letter of "apology"  from ING (Lee) after several weeks of
complaining with e200 "compensation" for my aborted travel caused by
neglect & incompetence of ING, however my time was not compensated
and the letter from ING obviously proves GUILT) Therefore, I am
co-ordinating a "quasi class action" to oppose ING & its group
associations on a global basis.

3. That
despite massive profits ING have a corporate policy to reduce personell
levels and this results in limited experience/discretion and a lack of
service, and incompetence.

(ING are
not the only bank to make mistakes,as I know Rabobank,Zw, also made a
similar mistake, HOWEVER to actual LOSE a payment transfer (TH,Be)
shows inability in basic operations.

4. That
ING rely on robatic/computerised systems means that disadvantaged,
impaired or seniors citizens are unable to make normal banking
transactions without computer training or assistance.

5. ING
have allowed viruses to interfere with operations due to the
over-dependency on computer systems so that no less than THREE times
(Be.) over a period of 5 months I have not receive a digipass from ING 
(different office from claim item 2 above)

The reason
I mention your EGM/AGM  is that I have close involvement with
sufficient quanitity of business that has been neglected by ING which
could boost profits and you as "chief" have to accept responsibility
for LOSING business and should be removed from your post and replaced
by management that CARES for people and profit (but not at the expense
of both).

ChriS SMITH F. INst D>



Bist 129,

B2180 Antwerp-EKEREN

email edagn@eured-san.net


and V "JusTITie" of Netherlands..



write 2 CVOM Ref 130938423;

to the computer (identified as "De Officier van JusTITie"(?)

1. . yr letter (BACK-dated to 13 oct. 09) was received today (16th Nov.09) once again these tricks and YOUR methods are INVALID.

2.   I
refer YOU to my previous correspondence which has not been answered by
any HUMAN person , or anyone who has a bona fide position of Justice

3. The "rules" referred to in NL are therefore ILLegal and UNacceptable to any logical intelligent being.

4. Your
"officers" (who are controlled by one or several machines (computer)
have collectively VIOLATED the following aritcles of the European
Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundemental Freedoms

= Art 3
(Degrading treatment Art 5 (liberty) Art 6 (innocent until proven
guilty by IMPARTIAL process)  Art 7 (illegal law) Art. 8

Art. 9 (Beliefs) Art 10 (info)  Art 11 (association) Art 13 (not official) Art 14 (DIScrimiNATION).

removal 5…illegal removal  of "paper -residency" from NL of my person
also applies to the vehicle, therefore it is outside of NL jurisdiction

I therfore claim an appeal  proces at the Hague to clarify a futher complaint at the ECHR (Strasbourg) and EU (Brussels.)

EdAgN/C. Smith

Post bus #1

B2180 Antwerp-EKEREN


email edagn@eured-san.net


historical/hysterical complaints/campaigns/alternative journals







i hope U will enjoy participation co-operation and support  of………………

all TRUE REDS…is it WORTH the price of a match ticket…?


is it WORTH the price of a match ticket…?

to SECURE Y-OUR club’s FUTURE, do YOU care enough to spend the same as you might spend ON watching ONE match (basic match ticket, programme , a tea, coffee or 1 bevvy in the "Albert" ..<smile> ?)

ChriS>EVEN in the darkest times, when adversity faces us, we must NOT overlook the greatest OPPORTUNITY…

below stats taken from the OFFICIAL website (www.liverpoolfc.tv) SHOW the global POWER of the REDS , IF the Potential is USEd…

over a million registered "fans"….

on past experience (albeit that I dropped out of business/management almost 15 years ago after a meningitis coma..) I KNOW and PROMISE that IF over 1 million "fans" could invest just 50 (fifty!) euros EACH…(making a fund of 50 million euros) an eventual REDs Supporters fund of FIVE HUNDRED MILLION EUROS could be achieved, …

SUFFICIENT to obtain at LEAST "shared managment" of LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL club..to

- ensure top level challenge for all major european and domestic trophies..

- retain the Anfield stadium as a heritage site

- support and improve the managment structure and ensure enterprise potential is realised

- maintain the "Liverpool way" as envisaged and enabled by the vision of Bill Shankly


- develop a global "grass ROUTES network" to re-establish honest social values and footy at basic levels for kids of all ages..<smile>


- each fan opens a savings account in his own name NOW of at least 50 euros to obtain a voting share

- A new managment body with 1 million shares obtains a multiple of 10 times

- Shareholders and especially PLAYERS and ex-players, long time supporters and established members encouraged to invest more

( in lieu of xxxxx)

- Investing shareholders / lenedrs receive a bonus om achieved profit ( a "return" on their investment – but No extra voting power.


I could achieve this and therefore I am sure there are people know to supportters who could achieve this – I do not need a "position of power" but before I die I will give every assistance possible to those who can make Y-OUR dream come true and ensure the REDS are back "on the perch" (sorry fergie!)

for more background see the "shelved concept" at http://www.eured-san.net/eured_ko-op.html

"popular opinion" states that "it cant be done"…that we have no chance in the modern age of even partially owning a top club"…well its up to US?…popular opinion never stopped a LIVERPUDLIAN before?..as I said I dont need to be involved, but I will fight anyone who ruins y-our CHANCES, dont let Apathy, oundits or neggies rule y-our DREAM..if anyone decries this then I openly question their MOTIVES and CHALLENGE Y-OUR loyalty…(we dont have to be born in L4 to be a TRUE RED!) …instead of people asking "why should we try?" …lets reply "why SHOULDN’T WE?"



Paul Rogers 31 October 2009

A difficult start to the season might mean Liverpool are currently playing catch up to league leaders Chelsea but when it comes to online matters, the Reds have left the Stamford Bridge outfit and every other club in the league trailing in our wake.

Fresh from seeing a record millionth fan sign up to the official Liverpool Football Club Facebook Page earlier in the week, a new Official Facebook Barclays Premier League table has been published and unsurprisingly, the Reds are sitting pretty at the top of the pile.
With over a million fans already signed up to enjoy daily ‘wall’ updates, photos and video clips from the LFC Facebook Page, Liverpool can boast over half a million more ‘Facebook Fans’ than every other club in the Barclays Premier League
If you haven’t already become a ‘Fan’ of Liverpool Football Club’s Official Facebook Page, you can do so for free today by visiting
Liverpool: 1,008,663
Chelsea: 395,514
Manchester City: 28,968
Everton: 22,215
Stoke City: 9,343
Wolverhampton Wanderers: 3,853
Fulham: 1,722
Blackburn Rovers: 546
Arsenal: 0*
Aston Villa: 0*
Birmingham FC 0*
Bolton Wanderers: 0*
Burnley: 0*
Hull: 0*
Manchester United: 0*
Portsmouth: 0*
Sunderland: 0*
Tottenham Hotspur: 0*
West Ham: 0*
Wigan: 0*

Celts New Year, but same old BS? (at least we battered the Mancs)


This is a (EuRED-Direct Action) "Grass Routes" special…YES another one!…<smile>

whilst putting the content together for this "Grass Routes issue"….. on 25th October 09, OUR enemy , the "mancs" , came to Anfield, their fans carried & inflated beachballs to provoke the home supporters of LIVERPOOLs REDS (we had lost the previous game @ sunderland, because the referee failed to stop the game before a goal was "scored" against us which was wildly deflected past our goalie by a beachball …on the contrary , despite a run of wine against our run of defeats the mancs players left THEIR balls at home, the REDS showed a fighting spirit in every inch of the firld (I am reminded of the motivation from the coach played by Al Pacino in the film "on any given sunday"..) …OU kid ("El Nino" ) Fernando TORRES scored the all important first goal in our 2-0 win, but it was our "unsung" heroes that got my "joint men of the match" …

Carra *"too old") Lucas (not a "Brazilian") Masch ("wants to leave") …Fabio ( not strong enough") and Yossi ("not a LIVERPOOL player) stuffed the critics of media pundits and non-fans down their throats and even young David Ngog (not good enough) came on to slot the 2nd goal in the 6th min. of injury time (for once fergie wasnt happy with extra time added ? <smile> …this game is watched by MORE people worldwide than any other League club fixture …I hope some of them got the message, DONT write off any LIVERPOOL team, the REDS will never give up…YNWA..with hope in y-our heart

SEE Utube ;

theres a party to celebrate the "CELTS new year" (1 st nOvember) …meeting at Macormacks Irish pub , Turnhout at 20h on saturday 31 october – then at "the Cabin" ..its a bit like "camp David" except we arent "camp" and theres no Dave (or Chas!) …

mind U, U might not want to RISK association with me…IF U had taken the time to read my recent blogs…

when I was preparing the word-file for this events "BLOG" ..I used the year (9) and the month (11) ..and what number did I find…?

to be sure the "CIA" (C*nts, Idiots and A**holes) will tune into THIS message and I will be lucky if U read anything , it will probably arrive in your inbox on 2012 after I am dead of "no mysterious" causes…

why so cynical?

Apart from my (and anyone I have associated with) communications, phones, correspondence, banking and accomodation being obstructed to almost farcial degress, every internet cafe , library network or friends cumpter system has been damaged affected or obsturcted/controlled in one way or anoither..

but how can I take them seriously

we still live in a world where ignorance rules 95% of the planets population

- an estimated 25,000 kids die daily from the mess we made – solved for EVER , IF onlly your govenments stopped spending on weapons for ONE year and gave that saving to re-distrubition of food

- Idiots crooks & actors Preside ofver the most powerful world military "mights" (or "might-nots")

- we pump 6 billion tones of polution into the air we breathe..

- so called "intellectual " dont realise or want to change that making profit on land stolen from the people causes the stress that kills us..

- Theres still enough Nuclear weapons (or waste) to destroy the planet and everyone/thing on it several times over

- People are becoming robotic and more stupid as more technology becomes available

- Humour is transfered into bitterness, more prejudice, more money-related greed

- Less awareness, care, and intelligence and TRUE entrepreneurs scarce.

(para-prasing from the film "imagining argentina" …………….Politics is like DOG sh*te ….if U step in it U stink too)

…politicians should be dealt with like babies nappies, checked & changed often..for the same reason!)

Heard USA & other western economies continually complaining abiut being undercut on manufacturing by japan, then taiwan, now china, maybe services from india etc …I am old enough to remember when the yanks flooded the UK with cheaper products & services….its Karma..the USA wanted the capitalist dream, to rule the world with commercialismn, now its biting their ar*e …what a pity ! ;)


I have recently moved into a house in the Merksplas area; to spend this winter (’09/10) further wriiting a book concerning my life story & psychology..

However I have considerable experience and want to stimulate social contact and communicate with the local community and therefore offer [-

* A Free and OPEN english language course, once a week, with spontaneous content, from basic conversation to Business/Political/legal dialogue level

- for participants of any age

- for a maximum group of 10 people

* A One on One course "how to be an entrepreneur" (including "starting up" ; risk management, and Eco-logistics)

* Football Coach a childrens/youth football team

* Campaign sponsors for a follow up in 2010 to Tom’s charitable adventure to Ghana ; (see : http://www.tangatoursvzw.org) by providing a coaching centre network for disadvantaged children ; starting with BongaTanga and developing throughout the african and indian continents.

note all my activities are charitable/not-for-profit – you may enquire via Niel? at the BIB Merksplas or by email (in dutch or english) to ChriS@eured-san.net

Christopher R. SMITH F. Inst D.

B2330 Merksplas

email ChriS@eured-san.net


and this is the latest on my arguement v "waterloo bankers"

The main points is that :-

a) I am damaged (prejudice) without any proper fair impartial/legal process

b) the b-(w)-ankers expect me to "BEG" the people who have insulted and damaged me

c) the bank dont apologise for their "failings" (losing my digipass, failure to transfer to LFC, etc -see also complaint to ING.NL below)

d) its almost impossible now to be a "mobile european" in todays "digital – trust no-one society"

why do YOU, the people ACCEPT that these "B-w-ankers" screw U then make U pay for it, they inflate the cost of living and the general inhumanity,

time for world people bank

ChriS>Kris, thanks BUT…sorry, no…

I dotn see how I can ask OES to change their stance when I am in the middle of a conflict with them, if this is above your status, please can U organise a meeting with your manager as otherwise I will have to go to ING international with my complaints…and then I will have to publicise it over my network…



From: kv@ing.

Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:57:18 +0100

Subject: RE: S791024 CS->Kris V /TH INg 91014 CS /EdagN RE: Centrale voor kredieten aan particulieren

Hello Chris,

The application can be done on two conditions :

- when the registration at the "Nationale Bank van België" is cancelled

- when your pension comes every month on your ING account

I hope you can convince the other credit card company that they made a mistake and that they will cancel the registration at the "Nationale Bank van België".

Met vriendelijke groeten,

Kris V.

Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 2:10 PM

Subject: S791024 CS->Kris V /TH INg 91014 CS /EdagN RE: Centrale voor kredieten aan particulieren

ChriS>Hello Kris,

Please NOTE the reply from NBB..("registered that you contest the registration of the payment default and that this will be visible to other lenders")

will ING now progress my Application?????????????????????

From: <EdAgN@eured-san.net>

To: <peter.neefs@nbb.be>, <edagn@eured-san.net>, <brigitte.smets@nbb.be>

Subject: RE: FW: 91012BHlib ref: COMPLAINT/counter-CLAIM v National Bank van Belgie (eurosystem)

Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 07:40:58 -0400

message from CS>"hello Peter,

BUT.. it is OBVIOUS that EOS and their clients ICS KNEW it was contested even before the amounts became due, they didnt comply with normal

procedures; nor complete a proper legal claim against me .. but they CAUSED damages against my credibility (and ICS caused damages by their own

mistakes/errors and are incapable of being a bona fide financial institution , employing inexperienced kid to handle "problems")..its disgusting and says nothing for belgian "standards"…"

Original Message:


From: Neefs Peter Peter.Neefs@nbb.be

Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:55:21 +0200

To: EdAgN@eured-san.net, Brigitte.Smets@nbb.be

Subject: FW: 91012BHlib ref: COMPLAINT/counter-CLAIM v National Bank van

Belgie ("eurosystem")

Dear Sir,

EOS Aremas has confirmed us that the legal conditions to register a payement are fulfilled. Therefore, the National Bank of Belgium is obliged to maintain the payment default until it has been paid.

Please note that, following your complaint, we’ve registered that you contest the registration of the payment default and that this will be visible to other lenders.


Peter Neefs


Centrale voor Kredieten aan Particulieren

Nationale Bank van Belgi�

tel: +32 2 221 21 38

fax: +32 2 221 31 18

—–Original Message—–

From: De Geyter Marc

Sent: maandag 12 oktober 2009 14:11

To: Smets Brigitte; Neefs Peter

Cc: Depuydt Andre

Subject: FW: 91012BHlib ref: COMPLAINT/counter-CLAIM v National Bank van

Belgie ("eurosystem")

—–Original Message—–

From: Depuydt Andre

Sent: maandag 12 oktober 2009 13:53

To: De Geyter Marc

Subject: FW: 91012BHlib ref: COMPLAINT/counter-CLAIM v National Bank van

Belgie ("eurosystem")

—–Original Message—–

From: EdAgN@eured-san.net [mailto:EdAgN@eured-san.net]

Sent: maandag 12 oktober 2009 13:45

To: Antwerpensg

Cc: chris@eured-san.net

Subject: 91012BHlib ref: COMPLAINT/counter-CLAIM v National Bank van Belgie


to email: antwerpensg@nbb.be

COMPLAINT/counter-CLAIM v National Bank van Belgie ("eurosystem")/


Original Message:


Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:41:17 -0400

To: kv@ing.be

Subject: RE: Libh-n 91015 FW: LibMp 91014 CS /EdagN RE: Centrale voor

kredieten aan particulieren

ChriS>Hello Kris,


the NBB /Belgian credit system is NOt logical…that means that any company can make a BOGUS claim without completing a full legal process..how

ridiculous! (in the meantime the person !VICTIM") is damaged…

the NBB should not ACCEPT any claim against me thats NOT proven in court, I cant imagine OES/ICS accepting to cancel their claim against me as they

didnt follow correct procedures in the first place, how can ING accept such a "catch 22" situation..

it doesnt make me feel like recommended my co-members to use this type of banking system….I feel more inclined to complain about this at the

petitions office of the EU in Brussels as its an obvious blatant violation of my human rights, especially after so many credit/financial/banking

institutions "got it wrong" and caused the financial "crisis"…

Original Message:



Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:49:54 +0200

Subject: RE: Libh-n 91015 FW: LibMp 91014 CS /EdagN RE: Centrale voor

kredieten aan particulieren

Hello Chris,

In the message of "Nationale Bank van Belgie" below is mentioned that they or not responsible for the information they get from the banks/credit card

companies en that they are not able to check this information. So if you think the information about you is not correct, you need to contact the

bank/bank card company who put you on the list en ask them to inform the "Nationale Bank van Belgie" about their mistake.

Can you please ask the "Nationale Bank van Belgie" the new correct information ?

Then I can order a credit card (when your pension comes on the ING account)

Kindly regards,


—–Original Message—–

Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 1:37 PM

To: KV

Cc: edagn@eured-san.net

Subject: Libh-n 91015 FW: LibMp 91014 CS /EdagN RE: Centrale voor kredieten

aan particulieren

ChriS>hello Kris,

as U will note below the "obstruction" at NBB is wrong, please would U

kindly proceed with the card application?

Original Message:


From: EdAgN@eured-san.net

Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:00:56 -0400

To: cr@nbb.be,

Subject: LibMp 91014 CS /EdagN RE: Centrale voor kredieten aan particulieren

and what are U going to DO about the sitution?

COMPLAINT/counter-CLAIM v National Bank van Belgie ("eurosystem")

attention of Brigitte Smets – Hoofsectiechef, NBvB, Brussel

cc; Peter Neefs – Afdelingshoofd, NBvB , de Berlaimontlaan, 1000 Brussel.

cc; "CS" : ChriS@Eured-San.net

cc; Members & associates & selected media/to whom it may concern.

via NBvB Leopoldplaats 8, 2000 Antwerpen, Belgie

Antwerpen monday 12th October 2009

REF Christopher R. Smith F.Inst D ("CS") . v EOS Aremas, Belgium NV

1. Although he speaks 4 languages , "CS" does not have perfect command of the language/dialect that you use in this part of Europe, "CS" holds a european passport and claim all the rights promised by the council of Europe, and co-signed by your "democratic" government.

2. "CS" joined a complaint concerning the unfair treatment of "mobile europeans" (that is Europeans that constantly change location for whatever reason)

3. "CS" discovered your letter in the postbox, on the way to visit you.today, your letter is dated 16.09.09 and that post-date indicates that EOS Aremas did not complete propoer procedures with "CS" (see also the content of the letter to OES from "CS" sent whilst he was travelling on HOLIDAY to the Italian Alps 0n the 7th September 2009) "companies like OES

act like " sharks" and do NOT follow proper methods of justice.

4. BY REFUSING "CS" credit YOU/OES/any banker, VIOLATES article 6, of the ECHR, which promises that a person is "innocent" until proven "gulty" by a FAIR & IMPARTIAL process = THERE has been NO such "process" other than OES being able to damage the "credibility" of "CS"

5.. The counter claim of 2,500 euros against OES/ICS is hereby DOUBLED to e5000 and is NOW "joint & several" against "NBvB" and any banking institution that acts similarly in an OBVIOUS ILL:EGAL action against "CS" or any other member or associate of EdAgN.

(not including punitive damages that may be granted to "CS" or others via an international court process.)



Bist 129

B2180 Antwerp-EKEREN


email ; edagn"eured-san.net

Original Message:


From: Cr Cr@nbb.be

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:53:26 +0200

To: EdAgN@eured-san.net

Subject: Centrale voor kredieten aan particulieren

Ref.: CKP.LBS.27083.AV – W1326N

Geachte mevrouw, geachte heer

In antwoord op uw brief, melden wij u dat de activiteiten van de Centrale

voor kredieten aan particulieren zich beperken tot de registratie van

gegevens in het bestand van de "Centrale voor kredieten aan particulieren"

en in het "Bestand van de niet-gereglementeerde registraties".

De kredietinstelling draagt de volledige verantwoordelijkheid voor de

gegevens die ze aan de Centrale mededeelt.

Aangezien de Nationale Bank van Belgi� de juistheid van de inlichtingen

niet kan controleren, vragen wij u in contact te treden met de

kredietinstelling die uw dossier beheert en die ons de geregistreerde

gegevens heeft medegedeeld. Indien de registratie niet correct zou zijn,

dient die instelling de verbetering of de schrapping ervan aan de Centrale

mede te delen.


Brigitte Smets Peter Neefs

Hoofdsectiechef Afdelingshoofd

Nationale Bank van Belgie

Centrale voor kredieten aan particulieren

de Berlaimontlaan 14


Tel. 02 221 30 06

Fax 02 221 31 18

Mail: cr@nbb.be <mailto:cr@nbb.be>

BTW: BE 0203.201.340

RPR Brussel



Manager Verkoopondersteuning

ING Bank N.V.

PostBus 99960, 8900 GA Leeuwarden

(telefoon 020 565 50 10)

Sent By hand, post & email; Antwerp 22nd October 09

Dear Banker Tuinga

OFFICIAL complaint v bank ING (REF 4986080 ZE/ZW ‘REDS’ Supporters CLUB -BENELUX-)

cc: Jan D – secretary "ZReDS" club

cc: D. Matthe

cc: ING, Zwolle – M. Braam

cc: EdAgN – 111-legal COMPLAINTS dept (edagn@eured-san.net)

cc: ING – KV – TH. / ING international HQ


IT IS NO LESS THAN 6 MONTHS since I filed an APPLICATION to open an account with ING, Zwolle on behalf of our CLUB, (re; Ze/Zw "REDS" Supporters Club (Benelux)

1) YOU delayed the opening by WRONGLY rejecting our application with returned contents,ID,forms & aims & objectives,members list(x2) – I refer YOU to our letter dated 19th may 09 (*) The application form was PROPERLY completed with the full attendance (advice & assistance) of your colleague (M.Braam) in the Zwolle branch office of ING. The club is registered at the Chamber of Commerce (KVK) Zwolle as a "Club withOUT statutes".

2) I am the only "full time" member currently able to deal with matters, and sole "sponsor/donator" & sole signatory and informed you that we intend to add other officers later (Jan D. & others) It will be done at an AGM In the meantime we proceeded as per (the CORRECT) account application.

3) Because your errors & the possible delay in receipt of correspondence, AT THAT TIME (may 09) we agreed to make the POSTAL address of the club also @ ; "ZReDS"/ChriS SMITH F.inst. D.MERELstraat 49 8011 BW Zwolle, NL AT THAT TIME YOU were asked to PLEASE process this application with NO further delay as I am having to use my personal account (postbank/ING Zwolle; 3934915) to support "ZReDS" club activities, in the meantime.

4) However, YOU REPEATED your Error and TWICE sent documentation to the INCORRECT Post box. Then we lost time in July because WE were absent on travels/holidays

5) Subsequently (DESPITE repeating our letter of 19th may & phone calls to your HQ by M. Braam & his colleagues in Zwolle) YOU sent documnetation (ref passwords/pin) to the OLD address – TWICE!

6) At end of August; Our club Secretary eventually received these items and passed them to me for collection of our PIN/password dated August. however when visiting ING, Zwolle I was informed that we were" out of time" , another password/PIN was ordered on 21.09.09

7) At the end of September new forms were sent to our new address (Assendorpstr 196, 8012CE Zwolle) – BUT were DATED 28th august !!!!! – (quite remarkable having ordered them on 21.09.09)- at the beginning of October I went to ING Zwolle to collect them and was AGAIN told they were "OUT of date" – your employee "Marc" RE-ORDERED via your INg computer system

8) Yesterday (21 October 09) I travelled 400kms round trip from my home-office to collect the forms and obtain the pin – and was told they had not arrived, your young lady in ING Zwolle infoormed me (after phoning 2 or 3 different people in your HQ) that the computer "order" of "Marc" was NOT in the system, and she RE-ORDERED the password/PIN for the FOURTH TIME!!!…she also told me

a)IT IS NOT POSSIBLE to make a "manual transfer" (without knowing my pin) – previously I could complete a simple "overschriven"(transfer?) slip !

b) that the ATM card I received a month ago is UNusuable…

c) WE cannot make any payments to organise media for our "LIVE tv" club meetings

d) WE cannot pay for a website (att)

e) WE cant pay for our members t-shirts.

…in other words WE ARE IN A WORSE SITUATION THAN back where we started 6 MONTHS AGO!!!

DAMAGES; (to be claimed against ING bank/NV & global, its employeess "joint & several")

- 10 HOURS wasted time travelling to several "pointless" meetings at ING, Zwolle and corresponding (including this letter) = 10hrs @ e25 euros = e500

- Travel costs x 5 = e200

- Loss of charitable income (not yet calculated) – as we have not been able to register our website as we cannot pay the hosting company

- Damage to reputation of "ZRedS" – probably requires an independent institution to calculate the costs of failing to provide member services

- Miscellaneous compensation and punitive damages (to be calculatedaccording to international law)


a) YOU pay the enclosed invoice IMMEDIATELY

b) YOU refund 50 euros in our account to Jan Diepenheim (club secreatary) and we find another bank who WANTS to provide a PROPER service to OUR club members

YOU were provided with confidential information regarding this club being part of a European Network of similar clubs and our intent to find ONE bank to service a potential 100,000 members YOU give us NO confidence that you are COMPETETENT to manage a "piggy bank" never mind the responsibility we are planning. I would have HOPED that considering the DAMAGE done to the reputation of "bankers" that YOU might have tried HARDER as representatives of your profession in the light of the mistakes made by w(B)ankers (World-Bankers). I have filed a complaint that may eventually be heard in the international court and global media. IF I expose evidence that this is part of a DELIBERATE OBSTRUCTION to our plans, your bank will spend the next 10 years litigating its defence in international process and be a laughing stock of the global media!

PLEASE REPLY IMMEDIATELY by email to the address BELOW


(founder member)

ChriS SMITH F. inst D.

email ; EuRED@live.nl or EdAgN@eured-san.net

c/o EdAgN (Direct Action)

Postbus#1 ,Bist 129,

B2180 Antwerp-EKEREN, Belgie

NOTinTansit – somewhere in the Flemish Forest ..no FFF…


ChriS>blogging from "somewhere in the Flemish Forest" no FFF here! <smile>

I am now in the middle of my first month at "t’cabin’ …this morning is a bit grey and had 2 visitors (rare!) Toms cousin ^ the DHL delivery man..yesterday it was so different the week had been relatively sunny and I had spent a lot of time on the veranda…I fed the chicks, collected wood for the fire etc, watched ‘endearing love”(or was in enduring love") anyway…,dvd starring Dan Craig etc ..;the story revolves qround q ballooning accident; then immediately switched to actual TV news about… a.ballooning accident (in china)…. sitting on the veranda of t°cabin…in the fresh autumn air with the sun on my face..the colours of the gardens and lthe large "pond"..which covers the whole area in front of t° cabin, the green the fading yellow reeds and the Red of the “mystical” plants …almost surreal …refflecting on life, and if I really want another “wife” and all the illusion, then….reality bites <smile>

Paul tomkins(LFC.tv) recently wrote> the burden of proof – the core of the democratic justice system – is as follows: "the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges."
But funnily, in football, it seems to be the other way around. The prosecution base their thinking on hunches and hearsay. And often, what we think we see is coloured by other factors.
The reason DNA is exonerating so many convicted murderers and rapists is because they were sent to prison based on eye-witness evidence in the days when everyone was satisfied that this proved their guilt. Wrong.
In 2005 I wrote that Michael Shields’ conviction in Bulgaria had to be unsound, because he was found guilty purely on such dubious evidence. The human mind is terribly unreliable in this sense, and plays tricks on us. I’ve read studies of eye-witness experiments when people even identified the wrong sex of the person! Our perceptions can easily be altered by other influences.
Shields was chained up in full sight of those who had arrived to identify him in a parade; they saw a man in shackles, who vaguely matched the assailant (in the way that people from other cultures can ‘all look alike’), so when they were all in the room together, they drew the wrong (but for them, obvious) conclusion.
There was even a case in America where a man served 20 years for a near-fatal attack on his wife; on emerging from a coma she had no doubt that he did it. But while he’d popped to the shops an intruder had snuck in and committed the crime.
While bearing no comparison in terms of severity, I think something similar happens when watching football.

ChriS>its an interesting comparison how judgements are made on & off the field, but lets not FOOL y-ourselves THERE is NO JUSTICE in todays society, democracy doesnt actually APPLY "innocent until PROVEN guilty by a fair & impartial process…

(tip watch the DVD "Felon" for an extreme example of what I wrote about now)

- in the midst of the "financial crisis" more & more people are being "blacklisted" by banks/credit agencies who decide that U have no more credibility even if U have or have not been allowed to argue y-our defence..

the mainstream MEDIA show people arrested, perhaps for civil or extreme accusations of crimes, and reporters show some (biased) "history" or associations of that person…(the famous macarthy "with-hunt" in the USA probably started this modern "trend" in the 50’s …how can that person be treated fairly?

in some "democratic" states; like "germoney" (and more & more in the UK/USA) "heresay" is allowed as "evidence" , so, dont be surprised if U make a joke about "terrorism" that the next day your front door will be smashed down, your home invaded by a "SWAT" unit and your family & friends carted away for unlimited interrogation or "investigative detention" (guantanamo bay is everywhere!)

unless U are rich or have local or political lobby U are likely to be held up to 18 months before complettion, of the "process", if U declare yourself INNOCENT – often "aliens" with no one to fight for them – people are encouraged by police, lawyers, (even their "public defenders") and sometimes "friends" and family to PLEAD-bargain with state prosecutors, as the damage done by ACCUSATION can often be MORE than the "punishment" of a truly guilty person

in the family courts – should U wate money fighting for custody – lawyers & judges are only too happy to take whatever dignity & resources U have left away from U, less than 5% of contested cases are settled in favour of a male parent, despite experiences showing that modern fee-males are becoming less "motherly" more cynical , selfish & consumer-obsessed!

so, …wheres the JUSTICE?…as people become more moronicly robotice in their lack of awareness and dependence on media, history , mass or traditional opinion ..judges are human and more likely to error, whilst politicians call for complete removal of the "jury" …we are MORE likely to make MORE wrong decisions than IF our children were taught the UN human rights articles & intelligent application of them! (rather than state officials being the LAST people to APPLY them correctly!)

"there but for fortune" (Joan Baez 1965)

note…some may be inclined to think that the REDS have an almost unique run of 3 defeats (albeit partly because of our STAR players getting injured) has caused my "mood" but…however, anyone who has read my articles/blogs/journals/mailings/books since I "woke" from meningitis coma in 95 will know that its much the same "warning/message" as ever, it seems that even "crisis" & "Tsunami" cant wake people up into caring enough, so why should anyone care about what I write (but it seems the "CIA" do (obstruct) <smile>


self-indulgence is the movie business (or the DVD buisiness?) I recently watched a film "how to lose your man in 10 days" ..could call it a chick-flick..?..all the special features add to double the time of the film, and this , my friends, is NOT a classic film, like they would have U believe, its sicklly full of the superficial beautiful people that has made the USA ugly..

IN some "third World" regions hospitals are "manned" by families of the patients , who do all the "caring" for their sick family members in the clinic..(leaving doctors & nurses to do the core work and nothing else) of course our "civilised" western bureaucracy & medical elite would crap itself at such an idea..(as they mostly do when "alternative" remedies are proposed) .no in our "advanced technological world" we seperate the sick, the old, the weak …and if the feminists (and their political poodles) have their way then men will be seperated from families too, so that all the girls have to do, is select the seed they want ..women are the cruelest beings on the planet, and would destroy anyone & anything to get power …"HELL hath no fury like a woman scorned" ..its the half of it…so dont worry it wont be long now …

I have tried and only partiially succeeded in several projects to eb creative, ecological or simply supportive of people with disadvantages, yet almost everywhere, simple jealousy, rules, bureaucracy, ignorance and politics have obstucted, opposed or delayed me, and within my own limited tim/budget I can only engage in "skirmishes" with the "CIA" ( "C*nts , Idiots & A**holes" ) of the "western civilization"…so, when Tom returns next year, its my plan to take the "ZBuss" touring down through southernn europe, north africa into wherever, then India, the isklands and back through the poorer states of the middle east and eastern europe (IF I get that far without some CIA killing me <smile>) …staring up centres for footy, networking, and encouraging small start-ups…I am not going to sit in this FAT selfish western society that thinks cancelling a holiday equates to a "crisis"

western civilization particularly and the worlds inhabitants generally have progressively lost the sense of awareness of others, are self-absorbed through the post WW2 "capitalist victory" the USA is in decline for the same greedy & selfish/ignorant reasons..their new world order’s only prize was to be ruler of a massive super-store, but the global customers would have been dead, poioned by exhaust fumes, chemical & nuclear waste…how stupid can people be?…well I am SO glad that I lived when I did, and had the opportunities I had, because I am so SAD that my (stolen) children will live and die in a modern hell….can it change?..of course, but the mass must change it & not depend on politicians or "do-gooders" to do it for them..

having said that <smile> ……..I will campaign to end all future property speculation = if PROFIT on construction/property was limited to the building alone (i.e. NO profit on LAND re-sale) we could extinguish the enemy of the people (INFLATION) now…and truly equate the people of the world and their opportunities..my dream is of a "entrepreneurial team-community" society…In the "thrid world " there is also the "CIA" BUT at least there are also people who I can help and who will want me there…The USA , & Europe is lost, dead , (just no one realises that the titanic sunk a long time agao) ..I know I wont achieve my dream (maybe no-one should EVER achieve their dream) , but I will die in the attempt, I HOPE! (i-a) <smile>

"Fire and Rain" (James Taylor 1970)

Curse on those who stole my children and my music (much of my collection , as a teenager, formed my opinions & were the original sounds of Beatles, Stones, Hendrick, Yardbirds, Simon & Garfunkel, Dylan, Bowie, Yes, Budon’s Animals , Pink Floyd, Zeppelin, all the mowtowners, Green, Fleetwood Mac, Benson et al..etc etc…) ……….The factory music of today, cannot compare with the original sounds & lyrics of the 60/70’s a time of evolution; in all aspects of music, sport and politics…and of course entertainment , particularly the challenging humour used to expose the stupidity of the masses…for example the brilliant "Life of Brian" (monthy python sketches we played out at school like pearls of wisdom)…and to leave U with a positive…There IS a GOOD current film called the "bucket list" ..about 2 guys who make a list of special things to do before they "kick the bucket"…U can help me with MY "bucket list" …or make your own!


with Hope in Your Heart….


p.s. some recent complaints (that might amuse U) inc B(w)ankING;


Aan: "Ryanair Customer Services" <info@frsc.net>

REF EdAgN91008CS-ryanPlaint-FLO


Antwerpen 8th October 2009

We are EuRED Liverpool Supporters (overseas) Network

on behalf of Christopher Smith,

YOUR ref ; FBUQ8N / G4ZSWL – Dates ; 27.09.09/30.9.09/02.10.9 – Maastricht/Pisa92)/Maastricht

!. Extract from travel report of supporter ChriS SMITH

Dix had booked my RyanAir flight via Maastricht =-planning to be away until an early return from Sunday until Wednesday…this seasons CL games give us 3 new venues ; Fiorentina (Florence) Lyon & Budapest..all of which I was looking forward to the trips; new stadiums and, perhaps new friends & experiences…I left Zw (NL) early by road to Maastricht, just as well, as (again) the Dutch closed the motorway …(tip = travel early if U go to a dutch airport on a sunday)..I parked the Zbus in the long term, and proceeded to check in, I had noticed that the printout didn’ t comply with my passport number (probably a glitch on the ryan computer?) so I wrote the correction on it, & pointed this out to the checkin girl & she told me "ok go to boarding" ( no "penalty" delay, or extra charge) …however she couldnt change the Pisa checkin copy (in fact I discovered that once printed it is IMPOSSIBLE to rectify computer glitches or online check-in errors @ RyanAir)

on my return (30th September) it was on time to catch my 03.35 (reserved seat) bus to Pisa…however…..although I was in good time for the flight (still almost 2 hrs before departure, being, reasonable, I (again) pointed out the error on my online checkin ..THIS time, a humourless RyanAir checkin girl told me it was "unacceptable" (company policy!) and I must PAY e40 at the ticket desk!!..I went there to argue, and met a brick wall in the shape of a humourless & impolite local woman, (i speak some itlian due to my wine trade time in Trentino 20-odd years ago) ..I thought "ok I could pay it and try to claim back later"(although RyanAir usually ignore complaints of this kind) …

There was only one ATM upstairs and my dutch card didnt work!…so I decided (as far as I was concerned I had the right documents to go through to security) they passed me through to the boarding gate, and then, we started boarding almost an hour early the TWO RyanAir staff blocked me…one italian woman & an uptight english tw*t..they were prepared to hold up everyone whilst stopping me,…I was told I could only get a decison from the (feemale) "supervisor""(no name , only "number 300") whom I found in her office with a face from hell..she wasnt interested , didnt listen to me, didnt care , just repeated no & I was given a RECEIPT for the extra charge, as they arrogantly already prepared it without hearing my claim..I said, "please, if YOU could be so kind to help me, (their strict new check in policy only came into force the next day!?) as the ATM isnt accepting my card & I will be stuck here if U dont let me on", she said (rudely) NO, ANYWAY, the gate is closed"…I disputed that with a smile.."surely YOU can let me on, theres still more than 20 minutes to scheduled departure, the plane is only parked a few metres from this building, and I only have carry-on baggage ( Ryan probably hates guys like me, because I usually dont pay ":extras" by taking only carry on baggage & booking flights at the cheapest time, ) she was a brick wall…(wow have I had a summer-full of b*tches)…

I went back to Florence but the eurlines bus ddint leave for Amsterdam until friday (cost e96) & the train cost e200, (compared to the e300 ryan tried to land me with)…luckily SH & Niel still there,I just had enough cash for the hostel that night, so, I asked SH to book me (online!)on the next Ryan flight (also friday from Pisa) &gave him 60 euroes (one way)to get back to Maastricht Friday, the flight was almost 30 minutes late & one poor passenger was panicking because the departure gate wasntr announced until very late." The lack of service is obvious with budget airlines, and of course mistakes happen but theres NO excuse for RUDE behaviour & inhumanity, I suggest all other REDS throughout Europe send me their complaints against RyanAir and we can complain against their licence if they dont respend reasonably"


one way flight 2.10.09 – cash e60

(duplicated) transfer Florence/Pisa = e16

Hostel 2 nights = e38

phonecard (see below) = e10

total: 114 euros

2. The phone card serial N.102267

purchased 2nd October 2010

I have attempted to use the card twice (vi Belgian & dutch phones) and your audio service answers that my PIN number is "invalid" how can that be when I have not yet made a call?

claims dept./CS

EuRED Direct Action group Network

Postbus #1

B2180 Antwerp-EKEREN


email ; edagn@eured-san.net



CENTRALE VERwerking OPENbaar MINIsterie

CVOM ; Postbus 8267,3503 RG, UTRECHT



Antwerpen 91012

to " De officer from JustTITie"? (UN-NAMED public prosecutor)


ref 1. your COMPUTER (UNsigned notice) ref C24829 "Zekerheidstelling" RECIVED at PN#1 TODAY (12th october 2009)!!!

CJIB n. 130938423- kenmerk E21434

ref 2, letter from "Rechtbank Breda" ?>>>ref 13009553 (565817 MB VERZ09-353)

We refer you to previous correspondence from Chris Smith ("CS") rejecting your unsigned claims and repeat


1. Your computer "system" STILL makes no sense. There are NO "enclosures" – (do you use "google" as a translator?) there is no explanation in the native language of the receiver!

2. IT MUST be "explanated" to the "public prosector" that all documentation was returned to your offices.

3. Please explain WHAT sort of anonymous organisation are YOU; am I correspnding with a machine? is this the "x files" ;) ??? (U dont even sign your "legal " correspondence????? – that is illegal in International law!


4. YOUR (illegal) "claim" to receive payment (by "payable" security) in advance of a full , fair & IMPARTIAL legal process is a BLATANT VIOLATION of article 6 of the council of europe (convention for the protection of human rights & fundemental freedoms) you are effectively stating that I am "guilty until proven innocent! – which is the OPPOSITE of all known democratic society & international (common) law. even your own.

5. IT is COMMONLY known that all electronic systems are currently making errors (libraries, post offices & government offices all complain of systems going down, with viruses and computing errors; therefore I find it more than co-incidence that "CS" received a flood of these "violations" (?)at this time! I therefore challenge your right to "ASSUME" these violations are correct.

CS (and by default his vehicle) was ILLEGALLY "de-registered" from the NL and AS SUCH YOU removed him/the vehicle from YOUR jurisdiction (however faulty your "system may be" THEREFORE ALL CLAIMS in NL are ANNULED & our associates are participating at the EU petitions (Brussels) & we will follow the FULL appeal procedure against YOU & your officers at the ECHR , Strasbourg/EU petitions Brussels, if you continue to violate "CS" rights & the rights of other "mobile europeans" as our rights (PROMISED by the signing of Eu & UN declarations & conventions by YOUR government) are constantly violated by Zwolle & other local authotities in the european regions. WE challenge the VALIDITY of your department, you send automated communications from an electronic "judgement"..there is a form of PREJUDICE or DIS-CRMI-nation in the Netherlands; which requires investigation by independent media. – NO "violation" has been explained.. WE DO NOT accept that "CS" should make ANY payment to your offices,your methods are DISCRIMINATION & ILLEGAL, claiming money without RIGHTS is a FRAUD on your part! – . and YOU must STOP this harrassment . which violates human rights, and the way that certain "officials VIOLATE individual rights claiming penalties etc without FAIR & IMPARTIAL process, any such attempt to extract monies WILL be reported to the EU parliament & eventually appealed against in the ECHR. WE claim euros 1500 against your government in costs to date.


EdAgN reply to: email: edagn@eured-san.net


(this is a computerised communication, & therefore unsigned) postal address:

EDAGN, Postbus #1 – Bist 129, B2180 Antwerp-EKEREN


 To Amtsgericht Freiburg

LEMKE – az: 200 Js 16837/04 – AK 23/06  760 VRs

Betref Az 21 AR 8/05 – 200 Js 16387 /04 etc etc

Holzmarkt 2,D79098 Freiburg,DUITSLAND  

EdAgN -NU,/mp 18/09/2009/S7-91012

Antwerpen 91012

LEMKE – az: 200 Js 16837/04 – AK 23/06  

Betref Az 21 AR 8/05 – 200 Js 16387 /04 etc etc etc

COPY;(via email) unterhalt@lkbh.de

cc; Christopher R. Smith F.Inst D. ("CS")

cc; EU Petitions -

cc; FB europarents (estranged) group network

cc; Media

"Richterin" Prestel, sent a reply 30..9.09 to the letter 18th September 09 received today at the PB#1 ; the reply from "CS" =

1. CS>"in my opinion it is OBVIOUS that "rechterin Prestel" is incompetent and INSANE, not worthy even of a lowly "beamte", so the banal reply is unworthy of response (IMO , she could have passed the request to another "beamte" but she is simply a stupid wasteful drain on society"

2. CS> " the ridiculous CLAIM" of the (illegal) Jugentamt is also returned; (IMO) ;

a) "The EU are petitioned to take action against the FASCIST methods of the Jugendamt"

b) "Mr. Schuler is included as accessory to the "legalised kidnapping of children Leon & Noela"

c) NO payment will be made to HOSTAGE takers A. Hartmann or M. Streifeneder or any "beamte" or instituyion that assists to VIOLATION of their rights

Please note that Christopher Richard Smith ("CS") wishes to visit with his son (Leon) and we wish to know the legal relationship between "CS" and the german "authorities" (polizei/amtsgeright etc) at local, regional & national level. what is his "legal status" now according to german "law". ?



EuRED direct Action group Network

postbus #1

Bist 129

B2180 Antwerp-EKEREN


email ; edagn@eured-san.net

on behalf of;

Chris Smith ("CS")

Father of (KIDNAPPED & estranged) Noela and Leon

(violated by german state – ref 22923/05 at ECHR Strasbourg 7.10,.05 transferred to Eu peititons Brussels-ref; nh 70401)




Copy : Margit Streifeneder; Schwarzwald Str.13. D 79194 Gundelfingen

To Margit Streifender (german mother of Noela )

"I have written to you, and your lawyer emailed and left messages on your answering machine asking you to write to me in Wapenveld, Netherlands with proposals concerning meeting my little girl Noela – this communication (by recorded letter and email) is to RECORD that you have (AGAIN) made NO EFFORT to honour the moral and legal rights of Noela, and not only do you violate my rights but even the "german law"  !!!!!!

F.U, Liverpool, (media)

Fathers UK;

Justice Pa Pa ;

Family rights 4 Europe ;

ICHR – den Hague
RA.T. Schmidt;

RAin Degay-Inhofer

to: All media contacts >


copy POLIZEI – Gundelfingen

the latest news…..

a) This morning I telephoned Frau Lemke (Beamte -Amtsgericht, officer of the court Freiburg) ….She said she knew NOTHING about the status of the "process" (Az 21 AR 8/05 – 200 Js 16387 /04 ) and that it was "with the Staatsanwalte" (Freiburg state attorney) , However, when I asked the name of the person responsible , the line went dead…and when I phoned back she pretended not to hear me!

b) Then just before I was leaving for Freiburg a female police officer , supposedly from Freiburg Nord station , phoned me to tell me that all my questions are irrelevant as I am "forbidden" to enter german territory, and If I do I will be held for the remaining 35 days of the "penalty" and then deported to London, her tone was typically vindictive and when I told her that she was part of a process against me that was/is illegal from beginning to end she refused to continue or spell her name, however I do know it and shall add it to my complaint at ECHR and expose this injustice in the media , as its is merely being used to threaten me and keep me from my children…


17th August 05

p.s. I will anyway leave here at 10 hrs tomorrow, I will not simply accept this unlawful german form of hostage taking , with "legalised blackmail"


AN Frau LEMKE – Urkundsbeamtin der Gesschaeftsstelle – Amtgericht , Freiburg

Betref Az 21 AR 8/05 – 200 Js 16387 /04

Frau Lemke

Ist ihre "ermittlungsverfahren" vorbei? oder fertig?

oder haben sie eine datum fuer dem "anhoerung"

Are you finshed with your investigation or do you have a date for a "hearing"?

Bitte SOFORT schrienben an / Please reply in writing immediately to:

Chris Smith / Freedom e Union


11 Grand Rue,

F68600 Geiswasser

email chris@freedome.org

p.s. Please ask Frau Prestel if she is ready to have a TV/Radio interview with me concerning her partcipation in the illegal actions of your state against me?



Ich habe vor meine tochter Noela , morgen (16th August) zu besuchen

bei Margit Streifeneder , Schwarzwald str 13, Gundelfingen

I plan to visit my little giel Noela , tomorrow (16th August)

was machen sie , wann Frau Streifeneder, Rufen sie an?

what will you do , If Mrs Streifeneder phones you to say I am there?

und wann ich eine TV camera crew sind dabei?

and will you allow filming if I have a TV camera crew with me?


Chris Smith


Justice Papa, paris, F4J Int (UK SA NL and USA) "help for dads" (NZ)

Vaeter-Akutell.de , sky news and BBC Liverpool

(*copy for file 22923/05 ECHR)


Statement by Margit Streifeneder 23 Juli 2001

"Ich weiss , dass es da natuerliche Recht unseres kindes ist, gleichen Zugang zu beiden Elterteilen zu haben und ich werde dieses Recht respecktieren."

Margit Streifeneder

Freiburg den 23 Juli 2001

(*witness Ra Richard Sauer)


 email: antwerpensg@nbb.be

COMPLAINT/counter-CLAIM v National Bank van Belgie ("eurosystem")

attention of Brigitte Smets – Hoofsectiechef, NBvB, Brussel

cc; Peter Neefs – Afdelingshoofd, NBvB , de Berlaimontlaan, 1000 Brussel.

cc; "CS" : ChriS@Eured-San.net

cc; Members & associates & selected media/to whom it may concern.

via NBvB Leopoldplaats 8, 2000 Antwerpen, Belgie

Antwerpen monday 12th October 2009

REF Christopher R. Smith F.Inst D ("CS") . v EOS Aremas, Belgium NV

1. Although he speaks 4 languages , "CS" does not have perfect command of the language/dialect that you use in this part of Europe, "CS" holds a european passport and claim all the rights promised by the council of Europe, and co-signed by your "democratic" government.

2. "CS" joined a complaint concerning the unfair treatment of "mobile europeans" (that is Europeans that constantly change location for whatever reason)

3. "CS" discovered your letter in the postbox, on the way to visit you.today, your letter is dated 16.09.09 and that post-date indicates that EOS Aremas did not complete propoer procedures with "CS" (see also the content of the letter to OES from "CS" sent whilst he was travelling on HOLIDAY to the Italian Alps 0n the 7th September 2009) "companies like OES act like " sharks" and do NOT follow proper methods of justice.

4. BY REFUSING "CS" credit YOU/OES/any banker, VIOLATES article 6, of the ECHR, which promises that a person is "innocent" until proven "gulty" by a FAIR & IMPARTIAL process = THERE has been NO such "process" other than OES being able to damage the "credibility" of "CS"

5.. The counter claim of 2,500 euros against OES/ICS is hereby DOUBLED to e5000 and is NOW "joint & several" against "NBvB" and any banking institution that acts similarly in an OBVIOUS ILL:EGAL action against "CS" or any other member or associate of EdAgN.

(not including punitive damages that may be granted to "CS" or others via an international court process.



Bist 129

B2180 Antwerp-EKEREN


email ; edagn"eured-san.net



ref ; MEMBERSHIP number 2380100(7) ?

To Whom it may conern 91019

I recently took out what I expected to be a series of E.R. episodes to watch whilst on holiday in my friends cabin in the Flemish countryside, as there are no neighbours, cafes, internet or propert TV reception, I installed a DVD player, with the intent of watching these episodes in sequence, however;


Season 4

3 discs are missing :-episodes 5,6,7 & 8 and 13,14,15,& 16, and 17,18,& 19

Season 6

2 discs are missing :- episodes 5,6,7 & 8 and 12,13,14 & 15

Season 7

2 discs are missing:- episodes 5,6,7, & 8 and 12,13,14 & 15

Season 10

2 discs are missing :- episodes 5,6,7, & 8 and 12,13,14 & 15



The discs that are inside ar NOT the original discs, they have been COPIED, and are without markings, and I would suggest that someone (from the Library staff) has the originals at home (including the missings discs)

When YOU send me those discs I will complete my viewing and return the sets to the library.

Whilst writing I have to inform you that you had to change my membership card THREE times in this year due to problems with YOUR system, which caused me several delays and time wasted and hardly ever used the computers without there being a problem with the equipment, BUT NEVER apologised or offered rebate/compensation. I also comment that (with the exception of 3 people) the Zwolle library staff are geneally unfriendly and often unhelpful towards non local customers. WE PAY for a "service" which I have obtained FREE in other states, where the staff are BETTER at dealing with people, I would offer your library a coaching course, however, I no longer live in your region.


91006..–Stuck in “FLO” (?) Because RyanAIR takes the Pisa..! ;)


Grass Routes Notes = Stuck in "FLO" (?) Because of RyanAir taking the Pisa..! ;)

Theres a good chance being "stuck in Florence" being an erotic experience <smile>, IF that was the name of one of the very attractive curvy young ladies I met in "FLO" – in fact the city reminded me of my old "Aunt FLO" i recall as a kid, she was old, (everyone is "old" when U are a kid!) but with a lot of stories & character ;) ….yes folks another "story" of mishaps & (dark) humour from the travelling RED…(Fiorentina CL away 29 sept 09)…

Sunday (27 sept 09)

Dix had booked my RyanAir flight via Maastricht =-planning to be away until an early return from Sunday until Wednesday…this seasons CL games give us 3 new venues ; Fiorentina (Florence) Lyon & Budapest..all of which I was looking forward to the trips; new stadiums and, perhaps new friends & experiences…I left Zw (NL) early by road to Maastricht, just as well, as (again) the Dutch closed the motorway …(tip = travel early if U go to a dutch airport on a sunday)..I parked the Zbus in the long term, and proceeded to check in, I had noticed that the printout didnt comply with my passport so I wrote the correction on it, & pointed this out to the girl & she told me "ok go to boarding" ( no "penalty" delay, or extra charge) …however she couldnt change the POisa checkin copy (in fact I discovered that once printed it is IMPOSSIBLE to rectify computer glitches or online check-in errors @ RyanAir)

They are happy though to sell bus transfer tickets on the flight, and although I had to wait over an hour  (in the sun) at the small Pisa airport for the next bus to FLO..I was happy that I had "reserved" the ONLY overnight bus return for wednesday morning…(Tip = Ryan Air offer "terravision" bus transfers, – Pisa to FLO single = e10 & return ticket e16..but during normal times it only costs about e6 by train, which runs almost every half hour DIRECT to the airport to/from S. Novella train station)
Graham & other REDS were booked at (tip) CIAOhostel so I reserved abed by email & Massimo confirmed it on the phone), in the next street by the station, it was clean, cheap (costing between e15-19 per bed P/P per night..)nice kitchen & 2 bathrooms for every section & max 4 persons per room, and IF you get a room at the rear you WONT be kept awake by the busy traffic noise outside the FRONT of the building. I went off fto a nearby Pizzeria , prices were "ok" & met room-mates (aussie) SH & (Kiwi) Niel…before having a re;atively early night..


The next morning went "walkies" & a "capu" with Niel (tip be aware of tourist prices on piazza giovanni or anywhere by the Duomo coffee cost e5 each) – they were seperately touring Europe..I left several messages with "Eric" the receptionist to ensure Graham (who had my match ticket ) would know which room I was In, however, Eric (who at first seemed bright…but…) couldnt understand my annoyance that he had let Graham checkin & go out without mentioning it.
as Graham is XL size and there were probably only 1 or 2 guests passing through the small (1 door) reception every hour ..its almost impossible to miss him..but Eric did…so after a meal in the kitchen invited the 2 room-mates to go "walkabout" in FLO…we had a couple of bevvies (or colas in Niels case) @ "Jolly caffe" (via S. Gallo) and a chat with cheery brazilian waiter who i shall call "san pauli" ;)  …& the guys helped me find Finnigans pub (although closed) in the same strada, after midnight I got a bit more sleep but had to wake earel;y to find my ticket-mate.


08.30h I reluctantly banged on their door and Steve answered and about half an hour later with ticket in hand but a hangover in his head…the 3 of us headed off to see "David" & "Ponte Vechio" (Flo’s old bridge & major tourist attraction) and my next priority was to find a place to store my bag (as the station lock-up wasnt open between 24h & 06h – my departure time!) ..(tip= I have previously left my bag at local irish pubs where our fans have "partied", if U are a RED its a possible solution) however due to the police ban on alchohol (*** see foot notes for FSE) the owner (Scot  & Celtic fan Simon) & barman  Toby told me they would be closed match day/night…but thanks to Fiorentina/LFC releasing tickets only a week before (& some "fan points collectors" there were enough "spares" (cost GBP25) for both SH & Niel to be able to join me (for their first ever major european footy game) and thus I could leave my bag in the room that night..

The 2 guys forget their passports & we yet still met LFC fans Dave & his son, Rory at the Piazza S. Novella where a LFC "official" told us that the police were arranging buses to come to ("find us") and pick us up directly where a few hundred REDS had spontaneously assembled (outside the other Irish pub, whose mafia connections must be fine, as they WERE open) …we packed the bus & started singing and then 2 italian bizzie-cars (polizia) and 2 behiind wizzed us to the stadium at almost full speed through the old city, with amused locals wavbing or clapping us all the way…the match (see http://www.liverpoolfc.tv for reports or http://www.redandwhitekop.net for opinions) was a rare defeat as our team (dressed as R. Madrid?) didnt turn up until the 2nd half by which time Fiorentina, in violet kit, had scored 2, we still "dominated" possesion 40-60% but failed to trurn one of our many shots into goals…although I always felt if we had got one goa, we would get 2 or even 3…their fans had WELCOLMED us off the bus, and with a traditional flag display, free pasta & water, were hungry to swap scarves & exchange compliments with us,,their banner (in front of a mosaic on their main end stand that the KOp would be proud of read" WELCOME REDS, FOR US YOUR STORY IS LEGEND"…and it was the fastest EXIT from a stadium, as instead of the expected "holding period"we usually get treated to, within about 15 minutes we were on a police escorted bus back to town ..with their fans again waving & applauding us all the way…(although we had a short 10 minutes "cooling off" walk back to the centro citta)

Wednesday (00hrs…)
Niel accompanied to pick up my bag & we met the others at a (murphys) irish bar ..and I stayed until closing time (and beyond) joking with (yes!) barladies FLO (tiny girl who danced with me) , Lara & a girl customer called Anna-Lisa..by the time they locked up & finishe dchatting with the (local) bar manager & other custoners , it was time to catch my 03.35 (reserved seat) bus to Pisa…however..
I was in good time for the flight (still almost 2 hrs before) and being reasonable, I (again) pointed out the error on my online checkin ..THIS time, a humourless RyanAir checkin girl told me it was "unacceptable" (company policy!) and I must PAY e40 aqt the ticket desk!!..I went there to argue, and met a brick wall in the shape of a humourless & impolite local woman, (i speak some itlian due to my wine trade time in Trentino 20-odd years ago) ..I thought "ok I could pay it and try to claim back later"(although RyanAir usually ignore complaints of this kind) …

There was only one ATM upstairs and my dutch card didnt work!…so I decided (as far as I was concerned I had the right documents to go through to security) they passed me through to the boarding gate, and then, we started boarding almost an hour early the TWO RyanAir staff blocked me…one italian woman & an uptight english tw*t..they were prepared to hold up everyone whilst stopping me,…I was told I could only get a decison from the (feemale) "supervisor""(no name , only "number 300") whom I found in her office with a face from hell..she wasnt interested , didnt listen to me, didnt care , just repeated no & I was given a RECEIPT for the extra charge, as they arrogantly already prepared it without hearing my claim..I said, "please, if U could be so kind to help me, (their strict new check in policy only came into force the next day!?) as the ATM isnt accepting my card & I will be stuck here if U dont let me on", she said (rudely) NO, ANYWAY, the gate is closed"…I disputed that with a smile.."surely U can let me on, theres still more than 20 minutes to scheduled departure, the plane is only parked a few metres from this building, and I only have carry-on baggage ( Ryan probably hates guys like me, because I usually dont pay ":extras"  by taking only carry on baggage & booking flights at the cheapest time, ) she was a brick wall…(wow have I had a summer-full of b*tches)…

I went back to FLO and the eurlines bus ddint leave for hamster until friday (cost e96) & the train cost e200, (compared to the e300 ryan tried to land me with)…luckily SH & Niel still there,I just had enough cash for the hostel that night, so,  I asked SH to book me (online!)on the next Ryan flight (also friday from Pisa) it was still less than 60 euroes (one way) back to Maastricht..I offered to transfer from my account as I still didnt know if my card was working …it did work in FLO, (although I remembered I could have withdrawn from the italian bank, anyway..) Niel left & I had a snack with SH before he took his train to Rome, I went back to the hostel and they changed my rom to the (quiet) rear..and there was Texan BU having problems getting online..(CIAO has "wifi") ..that evening I cooked in the kitchen and told BU that I would get an early night…no party…!


Its had been between 25-30 degrees and I had worn shorts all week, and even though there was some clud this day, it was still warm enoug, and I went to the old bridge getting ripped off by an old cafe owner on the way (should clone him & his shop & compete globally with starbucks <smile>)  – there I spoke in a mixture of italian & english with a nice girl (Tara, working for vox netwroks -audio for tourists)..before going for a pint of (draft) Kilkenny at Finnigans,,,a siesta then BU and I went to eat @ "Yellow bar & restaurant" (promoted by a street actress when I was talking with Tara earlier) ..food ok, a litre of vino da tavola only e8 ..(cheap for FLO!) ..and we did a tour of Finnigans, Jolly Caffe before getting back to the "josua tree"..where Lara, Anna-Lisa & a group of ladies from OZ were in party mood, BU left me there to once more be the last client to leave the bar <smile> one lady (Rach?) was getting close and in my earlier days I might have taken advantage, but I told her mate (Mandy) to take her back to their hotel, ..

Friday 3rd October 09

a young couple (more aussies; Loughlan & LIbby) woke me up TOO early, and I showered, had a tea & BU & I went off to catch a train to Pisa (I had told BU of Ryans cheap flights, and @conditions..but…) we both decided that a visit to the leaning tower"  was a "MUST SEE" (I took e700 cash out just @pisa "in case" for the coming month) …and did that before having a coffee at the airport, BU was off to visit a friend in Strasbourg (via Frankfurt) and I hope that I will one day meet the staff of the irish bar, (especially Lara <smile>) ,other room-mates of last week, BU (& his chinese girlfriend) one day…(i-a)…on the poisitive side – although I broke my budgetr by about 200 euros it meant I had an extended stay in "FLO" ..<smile> …not erotic, but not bad either, even the match result & the airline ***** didnt put me off – although I must say I was happy to be driving towards tçabin & Tom’s farewell party @ the cafe in ZonderEigen before he goes off with his 2cv convoy to BongaTanga(Ghana) for the winter, so I am once more staying in "without me" for the winter…

p.s. this is an extreme time of the year, the REDS lost @ Chelski sunday, which is also the day , 29 years ago, that I married my deceased 2nd wife (Jacqui) ..the events of 1986, 1989,  1996…were "dramatic" ..(as mentioned in my blog and the "book too" ("you’ve got to get in to get out…")

NO Leon & B-DAY9/11 @Lagolo/”auf wiedersehen pet” ..(a-z of fee-males)

confidentuiakl diary?/ChriStory…book too ;) ..unedited! & uncensored….!

personal note ; ChriS>Leon YOU are MY son, (against my will) YOU have had TEN YEARS without me, whether that decision was yours or your mothers, its MY time, its not ONLY your right (or choice) to know me, BUT its MY right and CHOICE to know YOU, if U dont agree to arrange to meet me I will have to make an uncomfortable SURPISE visit, because NEXT year I might not be alive, I might be in India, Africa and YOU WILL regret later if we NEVER know each other as a REAL father & son should..I am not ASKING you, I am TELLING you!!!! I will meet you soon…its your choice HOW we meet.

………………."Grass Routes" special ;  the (modern) fee-males of the summer of ’09..(TRENTINO (2) 9/11(09) birthday &  "auf wiedersehen PET!" )

saturday..5th september 09…
………I left Orestis & Lianne in Zwolle, to return to ZonderEigen/Merksplas (Be) not only to unload some of my personal stuff from the "Zbus" (before the trip to Trentino) but to support (Uncle?)Tom’s photo exhibition of his experiences & project in Ghana, Tom is about to leave ona special 2CV rally/convoy to Ghana from his flemish home…Toms project "Tanga Tours"  is a tourist service that also sponsors (with help from the Merksplas community)  the local school in the Ghanian (?) region of "BongaTanga" (?) ..
Sunday after a visit with Dix to continue planning of next years trip to MADrid ..(Footy Fun & international Friendship weekend May 22/24 2010) …I started my drive towards Nuertingen, hoping to catch my recently 13 year old son Leon..in Freiburg,  so I slept in the bus on the Rhine-bridge near Breisach before trying to catch him at home at his mothers/step-fathers house nearby , but the kids were away on holiday,.but as compensation I enjoyed an early monday morning sunset over the black forest on the way to Angie’s family home of Nuertingen,(NU) near Ulm..(home of ? Einstein)..
as I was early I spent some time at the (tip) economic "Regenbogen cafe" where disabled people serve a quiet meeting point. Then ("do – wa diiddy didi dum) Didi (not Hamman!) …arrived and then Angies friend "PET" (!) before Angie, I had some snacks on board, and we later "disturbed" the local "weindorf" (wine festival) ..

On Tuesday, Didi took a days leave and we met Pet for coffees ,teas (beers for Didi!) & onioncake (tip; try it together with the "new wine") …and bought steaks for the evenings BBQ at "Didi’s penthouse"…as we planned to leave for Trentino the next day (& Didi to work)  we stopped by midnight ..Angie & Pet still had to pack! (warning!!!!)…the idea was to pick up Ingo & Pet at the local train station & meet at Angies Dads for brekkie then depart on the (650kms) drive down to Lagolo (lake) in the Trentino mountains.(in between the Dolomites & Lake Garda)…

With *Pet sitting in the "4th man" seat at the back, we agreed to stop every hour or so, with a lot of "baustelle" (roadworks) limiting speed to only 80 km/ph this extended the journey time considerally – the Zbus really isnt anyway comfortable over 110/120 km/ph ..we had a "shock" because there were no passport or immigration controls, when suddenly 2 "GF" officers pounced on us at the motorway tolls after we had left the Brenner pass (note tolls e 8.60 for the Brenner & e9.40 from there to exit Trento) …They scared us because with threats of 1000 euros fines for not havving a "fixed!" seat for the 4th man (behind) and yet the "nice guy cop" let us go when Angie fluttered her eyes and told them we go to a holiday and her birthday!… ;)

Pet flipped out and the atmosphere was tense when we arruved at the "apart. Vacanze" in Lagolo, about 20 kms south of Trento, in Valle de Cavedine…..we were shown to our very nice 4-person apartment & although having to pay an extra e6 per person forbed linen, it was still a"good deal" …( I had agreed to pay half the total as a birthday present to Angie & the others @e50 each) …
I had already seen the selfish nature of Pet in NU. but she started to scream at Angie, and (behind my back) blamed me as "freak & outlaw" for driving the bus without a fixed (4th man) seat…claiming I had intentionally put them (she meant her!) at risk, (even though I had aksed Ingo if he could take us in his small citroen, which was excluded because of the girls luggage!) …
We snacked wednesday night and had a relatively early night and I took Ingo & Angie to Riva (del Garda) shopping in a very SUPER-market! surely enough (good) food & drinks until the following monday..I invited Angie & Ingo for coffee & (very rich) cakes at a lakeside cafe ..(over-priced but "worth it")..as Angie said it felt like " a film"…nice start to the birthday build-up..(except PET got us looking around for her "special tabac" and not only hadnt paid for the water she INSISTED I must buy & bring from NU but only contributed e10 to the shopping "pot"..

there was already an "atmosphere" and although we had some really nice meal in the apart. that Angie & I prepared..salad & seafood starters & Salmon & potatoes as main course with local cheese to "finish" (although Ingo took us kids for an ice cream at the "little price" hotel later (well, we had Domenicos wine,.,,;) ….and Ingo took fotos of Angie & myself looking into the "lagolo sky-lake"…
I was still tired but although I would normall "see in" the "9/11 birthday gir"l  really had no feelign to "share" the event with the selfish Pet…
…Ingo had proposed to go & get a cake for Angies birthday. so on Friday (9/11-09) we drove down into Trento calling in at "PRAVIS" (www.pravis.it) to arrange for the guests to have a wine-tour on the monday..we eventually found a nice strawberry & white chocolate & cream cake, with the number 29 (as I thought it was not yet 30, we made her 29 + "uno" !) ..and a bottle of "sparkling" to accompany the sweet..
It was a major operation to get the others out of the apartment in time to smuggle the cake etc & light the candles before they came back from the lake…but the SURPRISE worked..a happy Angie…
and for a while all neggies were forgotten…but…I had also booked a table for 4us to take Angie (but also Pet )  at the LP hotel

….a typical Trentino-style novello cucine meal, over-priced but very nice with an excellent bottle of "Teroldigo Rotaliano"..was (for me) SPOILED..when Angie told me Pet (who had said she never wanted to ride in my bus again..) said she had no money to spend for her part of the meal (Ingo & I had already agreed to invite birthday-girl Angie)…I had to control my Anger for Angie’s sake as I reasoned ("Pet didnt pay for water, Tabac or her share of the shopping, and was told to bring 100 euros for the weeks spending money so WHERE has she spent it?…)
After a little dancing & Vino at "ClanDestino" lake-side bar, Ingo took photos of super-star looking Angie in front of the hotel, and by now she was surely famous, then she treated us to an exclusive midnight concert at the Lagolo community open-air stage…

I went to bed (again) whilst the other 3 threw coins in the almost 4000 year old Lago di LAGOLO…(wolves return to Trentino after 150 years)…
Saturday, a much needed talk & walk with Angie to explain that I had held my anger over Pet so much that I was ready to leave alone..and whilst VERY glad that Angie had such a great birthday, I hadnt enjoyed it at all as I had hoped for a week of fun & jokes, singing & dancing..for me the spolied Pet was spoiling US…a strained but controlled meeting after dinner in the apart saturday night ..and all was settled..hopefully..
Sunday morning I gave Pet her e50 & Ingo gave her 20 euros so that I took her to Trento’s Stazione so she could get a train back to Stuttgart…life is too short to accept people acting like the CIA (C*nts Idiots or A**holes)
a coffee with mild Ingo in Trento & we picked up brekkie for the reamining 3 on the way back..the mountain sun seemed to say "welcome back" …sunny feelings returned…an afternoon on the lake sunbathing, a refreshing swim and a self-cooked meal at the aprt…atching the buena vista social club dvd to keep the "feel good" feeling..
monday, raining so I just kept up my fitness with a run, before we set off to shop, but all the local supermarkets were closed, Angie needed to eat so we searched the mountain road for a bar/cafe that was open ANd served some food…with the end of the "rourist season" we ended up at a remote restaurant "casina" near Drena (vale del laghi/valle de cavedine,where their castle wsa a likely photo shoot)…and met Steve (a REDS fan) & Karen who were staying at Riva also looking to have a meal, howverer the pp;ace had just served 2 busloads of irish/brit tourists and we chated to the couple (*tip – I recommended to Karen, a wine enthusiast, that she try the exclusively local Trentino wines; Marzemino & Teroldigo Rotaliano) ..but we left after 30 mins waiting to get to our "personal wine tour" at PRAVIS, Lasino, where Domenico’s wife Lena greeted us & his daughter (Erica) explained to In-go & Angie about the wine-making methods..
Lena was very (too?) generous with the sampling afterwards In-go & Angie (especially) were "tipsy" …so much so that we amused the supermarket assistants in Cavedine (in-go was re-instated as "poy-banker" as Pet wasnt around to abuse his mild manners) ……. an early (22h) night after our meal of considerable portions of tortolini, proscutto & parmegiano…& when in-go & Angie (the wine was having a major "effect" ) went out for a walk, I decided that my own bed was a better decision than to risk another arguement

09h got up to run aroubd  lagolo for the last time this hol…but when Angie awoke she was in ""hungover mood" and full of neggies , so a discussion aafter her lack of awareness started, subdued then boiled up again
, so after cooiking for us, I ate alone whilst the other 2 went for a walk, giving me the chance to be alone, and I went out for probably my last appreciation of Lagolo this week, before coming back for a siesta, so I could be ready to drive us down the mountain to Trento as in-go had invited us to a last meal – we found a restaurant that I knew from 25 years ago (I seem to recall that Domenico & I, the directors of Lagaria, and one time Jacqui (my deceased 2nd wife) and I eating there) the food was good, although over-filling (tip) ..the marzemino (vino) excellent, (there was an "ironic" moment as we were discussing manners & etiquette when the lily allen song "F*ck YOU" came on the radio!)
…and although I was unsure whther Angie had understood my explanation about my social philosophy we walked back to the bus content with the evening, despite the rain (our first 5 days of holiday weather had been very good, so we should not complain…)/////BUT as we drove up the road back towards valle de cavedine the road was blocked, and there were no diversions signs to help us I drove back down towards Trento and stopped to ask some road workmen why & how we should get back to Lagolo..they were confused and seemingly ignorant of the problem, and then eventually suggested I drive over monte Bodone (almost 2000 mtres high, with narrow roads in my "Zbus" ??) …OR take the autostrada too Rovereto(via riva)…as it was a dark night, & raining I chose the latter route….a detour that eventually was about 100 kms and an hour of heavy driving in almost a circle to get back to our apart. This was pressure enough, without Angie compaining of being stuck in the bus with a full stomoach for so long…the song "F*ck YOU" came on the radio again, the irony wasnt lost on me , at least! <smile> ..we arrived back at Lagolo, and all was closed…so an early bed (for me) whilst in-go went off to walk with Angie …at least in-go was apreciative enough to thank me for the "good job of driving" in his broken english..Angie said nothing…
bad atmosphere. I woke 08, got up 09h & packed , in-go still sleeping, so i cleanup the apart. woke in-go at 10h..Angie came out soon after with "face from hell" (JD) /// then asked me to delete her photos from my laptop?…I told her that sounds like mistrust, and if she doesnty trust me why ask me to manage her(and that meant that she dont decide about fotos, logos or anything without me!) …I know she is in a "viscious circle" so I tell her to go away, she starts bitching (again) and I tel her to shut up, she carries on & I tell her to F*** off or I will leave her there, so by 11h we are "readt" to leav we say a arrividerchi & ciao to the Al Matt lady & its pouring with rain, so its a slow ^ QUIET drive back, I consider if i ever want to see Angie again, I think ok, just stop it and see , she did notthank me for this week or for driving us back last night, sad, now she is 30 years , she has to take some responsibility for inviting Pet, whiom she knew to be "a pain" …but Angie also "ASSumed" that I or in-go would pay (when she brought only 50 euros for the week to spend?) …and although in-go isnt someone I am close to, i dont like to see women (ab) use men in this way, and probably laugh about it too….its was only about 550 kms back, but with 5 stops and the first 200 kims over the mountains at around 50kmp/h it was slow…anyway I unloaded them at Angies papas house, and was happy that Didi welcomed me..and said I could stay as long as I want and that I am "a wonderful man" <smile>

note by the time i got back to ZW – it was 2 weeks later & 3200 kms in the old "ZBuS"….

*(auf wiedersehen) Pet ] she exposed herself to be one of these so called "emancipated" feminist man-haters, has a "boyfriend" justfor sex and claims to be a communist, but HER version of  "socialism"  means that whats hers is hers & whats OUR is also hers! – that after the border incident (when I said whatever happens we stay together)…Pet showed herself to be EXTREMELY selfish..even before leaving NU..she let Didi & I pay for almost all,  at the weindorf monday, the BBQ tuedsay, & used Didis empties to pay for her shopping..told me on tuedsay that she might NOT come..!!..then insisted I buy water for all 4 of us .but never offered any money..for that or the travel, she paid 50 only for a 7-nights apart. but nothing for diesel/tolls .(at least e25 pp..)..she all kept her stuff fro herself, but expected in-go to pay for her tabac..and either of us to pay for wine/sekt, meals etc, she paid only e10 for the shopping (even Angie paid e15)..and insulted me (freak.outlaw etc..who wanted to trick them,,why then did I ask in-go to use his car?)…she slept in the "living room" & had the .tv on all night then when i turned it offf because she had her head under cover she said..FFF…ing…!) etc etc..complained she had nothing to do, but sat in front of the tv when a 4000 year old nature was directly outside the door..she took a massive case with her "so she could dress chique like the italians" then turned up at the restaurant like a slob….
Pet is(was?) a friend of Angie who also has this weird "fee-male logic" & often thinks that we must buy a bargain even if we dont have enough money <smile> and who will care-lessly empty the larder  even if theres niothing left for thje rest …Angie needs to care for herself, BUt also identify & RESPECT those who care for her..she was complaining about being "older" (albeit during her "hangover") she needs to appreciate, her OWn talent, and use it (not "excuse" it by doing other things to distract herself from her destiny) to know she has support, and to appreciate that too, she had a wonderful location for her birthday with friends who care about her (at least ONE of use REALLY believes in HER …without ulterior motive!)…and I did this because I want to, even though she didnt even remember MY birthday (who did?, only JD who was with me , anyway, in Liverpool, & the team who were at my party anyway) .she should learn to see what she has and NOt (like so many fee-males) BITCH about what they dont have..
there is something totally self=absorbed about modern fee=males whi bitch about men but selfishly (ab)use us when it suits them to..

other fee-male stories of the summer of 09..

Christelle / Esra..
When living in Zwolle (NL) I often go to "de singel" – its the sort of place where "odds & ends" "mavericks" insomniacs & late – night / early morning party people finish their enjoyment…at the end of June/beg July there was a summer festival (Zwart?) and one sunday night I called into the dS bar for a "nightcap" and found a theatre group of mostly feemales in a party mood having had a success that weekend, so I got drawn into dancing with them, and then a slow dance, and I took young Christelle and she was petite & like a feather in my arms  we moved so easily across the dance floor that as soon as we finished (a bit older) Esra begged meto dance with me too..another slow dance and she got as close to my body as anyone could without getting inside my shirt..it was nice..anyway we drank more, smoked & sat outside until closing time, Christelle & esra were both friendly, and I sensed some jealousy between them, until Esra said that she was drunk, and with a sudden "sorry" disappeared (again)
…a few days later I called in for a drink at nearby "Jazzy"(bar)..I saw Christelle, with some friends..and she IGNORED me, I then noticed a tall (very young) blond guy with "greek-godly looks" ..surely she should not need to avoid (mature) me…would the "boy" be jealous of her dancing with me?…
…a eason to ignore me…hmmm!…
thats not so serious a rejection but then in De Singel…I saw Esra, who was with a guy, and she looked through me at first, then came up to me & said "sorry" and walked away!!!!

the owner of Jazzy jam bar (Del) invited me to a wine tasting just after I got back from my last visit to Trentino, it was Prosecco, so I was confident, and amongst the "enthusiasts" (who had "met" as a "twitter wine club)was a young lady, obviously(?) single, and whilst the very handsome del was sitting on my side, she sat on the other side, and we joked and flirted a bit, and a great black female singer was there, the mood was just right,,,and as we were seranaded with a ballad I danced with her, she rested her head on my shoulder..was this "encouragement" or to make someone else jealous?…she told me the latter, but just as she left whispered her twitter name to me (and I told her mine!) …then the (married)  wine "expert" who organised the tasting came over to me to tell me that she was HIS "girlfriend" (so what?) ..the next day I checked facebook linkedin & twitter & found her..she had left a note on her "twitter" profile (in dutch) roughly saying " anyone know the FB/Tw name of that great guy from LIVERPOOL at last nights wine-tasting..?"…I sent her a couple of messages and on the monday had to pass by her Utrecht  bookshop (which she promoted wildly on her twitter-profile/blog)..on the way to flemish ZonderEigen ..so I stopped the bus there , with Rose in hand went with a smile to her shop…BUT..met her (married) "boyfriend" on the way,,,what a co-incidence…at the shop she became the first women EVER to refuse a ROSE from me, and then disconnected her profile from mine, and her "boyfriend" sent me a threatening email as if I was a "stalker"..!!!…the (compact) version of my reply is this. ".IF she is really YOUR girlfriend she should nOt FLIRT to make U jealous without the risk of the consequences…AND YOU (as a married family man) shouldnt USE a "wine club" to pick up single women, and then complain about anyone else!!."

Anyone who knows that sick dutch XXXX  girlfriend (JD) of the last 2 years will also know that I had to leave some personal boxes with a neighbour when JD threw 2 bottles threw the living room window & proceeded to throw my clothes etc into MerelStraat..anyway Diana moved and then saw &stopped me whilst I was in Zwolle (VH) to tell me that the boxes were @ number 34 with "MIK"…so I called round and she was really nice, she had a nice little girl reminding me very much of my own (estranged) little girl Noela ..asked me if I wanted a drink (I took water) ..and was "politely interested" when I told some of my story…I gave her my postal address/email for Diana & she said (very kindly) that I didnt have to take my boxes until SHE moved away (in September) from the soon to be renovated "Kamperpoort" district of Zwolle….
..maybe I took a chance, but there were no "man signs" around, and I gave her a bottle of Doemicos wine as a "thank U" and suggested maybe we could test the other wines "sometime"..suddenly she went "cooler" ..I proposed by email to maybe have a "coffee, toffee or tea" but no response other than to ask when I would get my things, suddenly there was an "urgency" to have them out of her house, and sent me an email refusing my (really platonic) offer to help her move her stuff with the "Zbus" (because her BOYFRIEND has a BIGGER van! <smile>) then just to cut the "warmth" off completely ,when dutch-speaking Orestis came with me to pick the few boxes up, she kept her door closed, and wouldnt even let him use the toilet………………amazing!!! 

Sandra H.
A "friend" of my (former girlfriend)  XXXX (JD) never invited me to her parties and always told JD not to be with me, told me to stay away from her (whilst taking JD out all night WITH HER and her various Men!!!) was found taking the back fence of Merelstraat 49, whilst I was still living there….

Several women from Zondereigen..flirted & danced with me during the "Kermis" this year  then pretended not to know me when their "friends" saw us after…then theres the funny story of Marie-Anne (version2) when I was last in Zwolle …with Orestis & his girlfriend ..we sat next to a group of ladies and I started to talk to Marie-Anne (who works in the local media-tv or something) we were laughing & joking & getting on fine, and when I suggested some sort of contact she told me "I like women" I said…so do I…..but I am re-thinking that last statement…<smile>
fee-males = EVERY time U think U have the ANSWER, …THEY change the QUESTION <smile>

btw – if U want to know my "social philosophy" …IF u choose to join a group, accept the consequence and HONESTLY put the (whole) group/team or community before your self, UNLESS its clear that you individual act benefits the (whole) group…

Annika…(plastic alter-hippy met in Freiburg, passion in Berlin (made Leon) and stole my son 3 years later) Angelika, ( shared the K14 Freiburg altstadt, my "spy in the RAThaus"…mobbed by colleagues & boss she lost courage, and was grey again)
Biggi (my 23 year old birthday present at my 50th..)
Cariole (champion of the bristols..wine fair..) ..Cathy (sleep frenchy "paradise" in Freiburg..wife of the baron von sh*tehausen)Christelle (french-alger..asked me to love & stay with her "forever".. then dumped me in Alsace when I was away for a footy weekend..laugh, non! )
Debbie K …(devilish flirt & ex-owner of "foutvafe" Merksplas,  softened..twice)
Elaine S…the girl from school, we never did..
Fiona (almost became number 1) Franziska H.  The "queen of sommerhausen" ..(@br 33, left without a trace & "promised to love me forever" but lost her humour in barbados during the RT cruise)
Gloria (first wife, through her neglect, she killed my son Adam..and then hid the hospital mistake, for money?) Gaby Breuer, (stout & clever girl from Fr..loved dogs instead of kids..shared Br.33 for a while..) ..Gaye (One of the best FRIENDS I ever had, supported me, but I fell for Jacqui)..
Heidi H. (an english girl in Fr. with a name like that..sold my 40 yr old album collection, when I didnt "surrender" in U-H!)
Iris…(loved my style of making love, but loved her image more…respect…but she lost her job..and learnt a lesson, I hope)
Jacqui, (was still my 2nd wife when she died, beautiful inside & out, I wish I could have treated her better & saved her from Cancer- R.I.P)
Josee 9see X)
K rista (young translator in Trento)
Linda (hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, extreme passion, she cost me a million..)
MarGIT (told me, U are a good man a good father, I would never do what Annika did, no she did worse & kidnapped my little Girl, Noela), Maltese Mary (was very nice &looked like a Brazilian beauty, was ready to come anywhere with me, but for her catholic family) & (Dr.) Maria, from fr. like many she thinks too much)
Nicole..(wild french sensual sex "the wine trade after sales service, Dijon" ) , Nathalie..(a french student , she said "show me how to love"…I wonder what she did with those "lessons")
Oh ..I forgot someone…(from Doncaster her hubbie sang in the opera at Verona…until we met…)
Penny? no just a dream!
Question?…is there one GOOD woman for me to meet on this planet?
Regine (was car-Matth’s girlfriend..good looker clever frankfurter, called me "sugar ChriS") , Regina of Fr,, nice bosy, but cheated me too)
Sabine (of Bielefeld , sexy & generous..until I mover with Fran to Fr.) , Sabine R..(sweet young student of the english school in Fr..she was a fan, but I mistakenly let M-GIT shut her out)
Tanya (young south african , family near Fr,  a bit nervous-wild , yo ho ho & a bottle of rum..)
XXXX = thats Josee! ..my many times eX in 2 years of Zw.- girlfriend Blonde & selfish, arrested twice, no respect, for anything, even herself..enough said!)
Y & Zoe…to follow?
Angies 29th + UNO!

3 x 9 in your day
30 years, to mature
 like good vino we have to wait..
is there something more to say?

this is just the end of the beginning
from now on U are sure to be winning..
U know U are my closest "mate" (>?)
on this y-our special date,,

budget for Nu-Trento/Lagolo?riva-Nu

Lagolo- al mattina
contratti app vacanze lagalo
via al camp n. 7
38076 lagolo Tn. IT
cmavl@libero.it http://www.vacanzelagalo.it
(contra; 1/09/09)
9.09.09 – 16.09.09 =  e285
pul finale e 30
covers/bedding?  e24
total = e339
(BNL out e1000 11.09.09 via tat, tonelli, pay pal via XXX?/Pravis?)
apart ;
e 50 ang
e100 In-go
Diesel e 50 x 2 = e 100 cash (+e30 already in tank & e60 on return)
tolls e18 ->tn + 8l50 for return
(- IN-GO e50 )
e 50 x pet -> e50 train? (zero Cost for her!) cost me e100 for her
wine/drinks paid by me e 55
brekkie monday e15
in-go paid meal friday
cake/sekt = e41 -20 from in-go
ingo invited us tuesday to dinner..
tolls & extra diesel = e40 -20 from in-go

(return drive
(tank it e20 cash/ause 40? cash, toll 8.50)

EuRED(irect) Action “Grass Routes” Network special mailing….”excuses” ???::

EuRED(irect) Action "Grass Routes" Network special mailing…."excuses" ???::

17h saturday 15th august….Zwolle!…not ZonderEigen, 


I am walking in the sunny late afternoon thinking about the "excuses" & how
great this weather would be if we were now finishing off the FFF tourny &
starting the "barbie" (BBQ) …but Dix & I postponed it after so many
problems this weekend…I suppose we (as organisers) must take the
responsibility for choosing this weekend when we sat down after the great
weekend we had in ZonderEigen last year…

I had a "gut feeling " when I left Zwolle thursday…and when a motorbike
cop pulled me over for not wearing a seatbelt in the "Zbus" i should have
known it was going to be "one of THOSE weekends" …(he didnt charge me, at
least that was positive..)

These are the "excuses"…

"SKY tv wanted the Pl game spurs v LIVERPOOL moved to sunday, which meant
the return flight for the scousers clashed with KO time , thus meaning the
lads would miss the game,( if they hadnt anyway planned to go to London..)"

"it clashes with the first weekend of the Premiereship 09/10…"

"mothers day in Be."

"In a nearby town this weekend (Hoogstratten) is probably the biggest
antillian music festival in europe…(* which also accounted for the lack
of available B & B & an alternative distraction for the locals)"

"sickness; Mexican flue scare, swine fever …."

"Holidays, family & work commitments.."

+ ….apathy, & the "CIA" (dont need to ecplain what that means..)

we had a little party at the cafe uintil -4hrs saturday morning, but it was
mostly a weekend of continual disaster, with almost everything going wrong,
on Friday I couldnt find 2 friends (M & M) …my bike was busted, the tyre
went down on the "Zbus" ,,,even Dirks "frituur" mucked up his take-away
order!!!! ;-) …and there was a massive traffic jam on the way back
(between Breda & Utrecht..) and I had to detour 40+ kms….

as they say, "sh*te happens" ….BUT what can NOT be "excused" is, after
being informed by myself or Dix about this weekend since several months is..

- NOT making an effort..

- NOT keeping either of us informed (Thanks Andre fro phoning Gunther
saturday morning to say only 3 turned up at Be Quick..)

- and as U might have seen from my other mailing…for someone who was
invited to join us, to then propose an alternative training session @ BQ on
the SAME afternoon..

ZReDS members, U were informed of the aims of the club when joining – it
clearly states that members are expected to follow the "LIVERPOOL way" ///
I am now considering who should be excluded from future events &
activities…(note Nick!& others)

(it was my son Leon’s 13th Birthday on the 11th august – his mother has
prevented him from being with me for more than 10 years now, I sent him one
of MY footy shirts (as he probably knows more about Stevie Gerrard than he
knows about me…and of course the new black away shirt with SG 8 on the
back)..I hear he still goes training but I wonder what a footballer he
could be if given the right support & coaching…

thankfully Dix came with me to Anfield last for the (Torres) friendly with
A.MADrid weekend we got tickets with coffee & blah blah in the VIP
lounge..not my scene, the majority there were "tourists/casual fans" who
never sing or shout (anything positive), and are just there for a chat with
they buddies..& of course we did the rounds of LIVERPOOL footy-pubs before
the game, saw big Graham at the "social" for a bevvy or 2, and of course
results dont matter (!) @ friendlies (but make sure thats the last game U
lose this season, REDs)..we did the "usuals" Grapes pub then rather than go
looking for the others SScousers , stayed @ the "cavern club" until they
eventually closed..a few hrs sleep & we ourselves became "touriists" and I
gave Dix a quick tour of London, finally having a coffee by the Tower
bridge..memories of me as teenager when I used to eat my sarnies & watch
the tourists (then only a few) during my "training" as a teenager (when I
did my "city round" I could walk from one side of the city to the other
through the office buildings without getting wet on rainy days)..then on
down to the ferry, thanks to Dix for his company , keeping me awake & for
driving the last stretch back to Merksplas.(by the time I got to zwolle it
was 2000 kms & about 2 hrs sleep! <smile>)



p.s. Dix – please remind Gunther about the TV idea then we can mention Cafe
Schuttershof (ZonderEigen) on the "Red & white KOP" REDS supporters forum,
as a european venue to watch the games live …good for us, and more beer
sold for him ! (even at only 1 euro a glass)

p.p.s Welcome Johnson & Aquiliani ..

COME ON U REDS..give us Number 19…….
and a trip to MADrid…(& number six?)

pirates meet …shhhhhhhh! (secret)

The 2009 "pirates meeting"….somewhere along the border between Eindhoven & Antwerp…" Grass Routes Diary " July 3-7 , 2009


A big Hello to FvR. ; Princess Leah, their boys ; M & S…, ULi & Jeanette..& little Tom…

(the names may have been changed to protect the guilty <smile>)


After a rigourous  sweaty Thursday night footy training session with EuRED & BQ …number 6…..and a "last bevy" with Jan D & the lads in the BQ kantine…I went to "de single" in Zwolle..Esra apologised for Sunday (getting too friendly…as her boyfriend is there THIS night..) and Christelle managed a sneaky smile as her big blond blue-eyed "boy" was also there..)  ah women….so fickle…


I had a couple of drinks , and as I left there close on 03h decided to nap before the 200 kms drive..but only a short one, then I woke up, with the idea to drive on as I could then avoid rush hour jams in Utrecht…


So I was well In time, another nap and I went  looking for F & L  & brunch…afterwards down to "work"  putting the beds up in the "dorm" (outhouse) …and already guest-pirates were arriving from Paris, Dresden or various  parts of Holland, germoney etc…Lithau (?) Robertus & his friend …and we eased into a warm Friday evening "welcome party" Uli & I recalling our "team" ..(although this "worker" didn’t get a room…was " In Transit" again <smile> ) ..fuming from my hotmails being blocked, was that ME or the pirates they wanted to "block"??


P*ss*d on the 4th July!


Early bed for me , so that I could be "sharp" the next day ..the " worker" who mutates into receptionist/chef/cashier/waiter-barman/cleaner/dj- ….after the BBQ for 40 + people I  got a chance after midnight when the (real?) pirates mistakenly left the mic unmanned , being  a "sterio-pirate" together with the host (FvR)…not sure if anyone was listening or understood my euro-scouse jokes…


Its was getting light by the time I went "in transit" …so dark glasses & a "shake-yer-money" look was in order when only a couple of hours later , I re-joined the "team"hauling the kitchen stuff to the brekkie/brunch tent..I took Steve to BH for his TurnHout bus ..and return to dismantle the " dorm" ..and I don’t know who hit me but I had a bloody lip ..(was my DJ-ing THAT bad?)..it had been a dry weekend (outside!) …and "mummy & daddy took this strange "family" to BN for an italian ice cream (people must have noticed that we spoke a mixture of english, dutch & german) …we had a look (eventually at a "pirate" DVD …not what other people think…when THEY talk about "pirate@ dvd or films or music…<smile>)


By Monday (6th July) only the "team" remained…Princess Leah was on her way, the boys at school, and the only topic was the previous nights "coincidences" (5 of our email addresses blocked, the DVD froze, and even the lights flickered…) …I was half expecting the military helicopter that flew close overhead to "unload" the heavy mob…(sort of "brazil" imagine in my head)..

So off  to the library to catch up on the internet and later the Café @ ZonderEigen …Irish night…Tom (from MP) & a nice Else, Greta & the fan club, dancing drinking (too much ) guiness and the music..one of the last to leave , again in the wee hours…

(kermis continues..but that’s another story…I hope!)  ;)


p.s please don’t write via eured-com , please use eured@live.nl  to comments or responses write to " Grass ROUTES" ..until further notice..


also ATTENTION pirates..I plan to " tour "this summer (if the "ZBUS"gets repaired by F’s mate..)  whose at HOME? <smile> ??????


(AND the FFFF ; footy FUN & Friendship FIVE -a side mid-week footy league set to grow around europe…<SMILE>) 

and …



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“Grass Routes”…90728..CH-it/vino/

ChriS>please be so kind as to answer IF U SEE this message or not , as something or "someone" is blocking communications, if U cant be there party , watch or play , dont forget to tell your friends..every one of them is welcome..

INVITATION to Footy FUN & FRIENDSHIP weekend(Ze) august 14/15/16 ..09

Hello makkers,

…its going to be (another) great "Craic"…

1. you are INVITED The INTERNATIONAL "footy FUN & FRIENDship weekend -

august 14/15/16 in ZONDEREIGEN (Baarle Hertog/Nassau)


Friday from 18h welcome party at Cafe schuttershof

saturday ; 7-a-side football tournament for the " European NOT – WITHOUT -


Barbeque; trophy presentation ; party"@ FC ZonderEigen then "high

street/night life" party..

Sunday; for survivors ; "farewell brunch" & "surprise"…

entrance costs ; e10 per person ; including party/BBQ – cheap B & B available (book early)

DUE to some CIA "interference" at the "pirates weekend" the hotmail account

is closed at the moment so please reply to chris@eured-san.net

"European Not Without Me SUPER cup 09" - phase 2

@ "Sonnenveld" ZonderEigen, Belgium (Situated between Eindhoven & Antwerp)

European 7-a-side Tourny theme ; "MORE Footy FUN & FRIENDship & Belgian Beers"

for info; contact Dirk via email ; Dirk.Matthe@telenet.be


* Net proceeds to kiddies charities; such as "Kika" , "RED Nose day" & for awarness ; "JUSTICE" (Hillsborough)

Subject: RE: INVITATION to Footy FUN & FRIENDSHIP weekend(Ze) august 14/15/16 ..09



ok -last move M49 30th July 09

mini fridge


red hoover

dvd/cd s

chairs garden (2)

pizza cooker

red plastic closet for clothing, dont know if there ten but they are all there

a portable hob?

Jeans i, socks yes 0ne pair, t shirts one black one,

sweater brown with black stripes


glasses you can have your cuttlery

one book

tv and remote control

your garden table

your plant in the garden

stuff in the cellar

a lamp

lfc mousemat

black phone ( landline)



Dear Mrs VdV,

AS you make it clear that you like to read books & watch films, here is a STORY for you, the difference is (unlike "Kill Bill" or "Notting hill" or so many novels) this is a TRUE (& honest) "enlightenment"

title ….dont forget to <smile> ….(NOT a slimy "love letter" ) <SMILE PLEASE!> Zwolle 90728

The scene ; a Jazz bar in a small dutch city.."CS" is sipping some italian sparkling stuff (suppossed to be "tasting") but the massive talent of the girl singer (Diana) & his natural lust for music & dance draws him to the lyrics of one of his favourite songs, as she sings….


I can’t light
no more of your darkness
All my pictures
seem to fade to black and white
I’m growing tired
and time stands still before me
Frozen here
on the ladder of my life

It’s much too late
to save myself from falling
I took a chance
and changed your way of life
But you misread
my meaning when I met you
Closed the door
and left me blinded by the light

I can’t find
Oh, the right romantic line
But see me once
and see the way I feel

Don’t discard me (baby don’t)
Just because you think I mean your harm
(Just because you think I mean your harm, oh)

But these cuts I have, cuts I have
They need love
to help them heal

Oh, Don’t let the sun go down on me
Although I search myself,
it’s always someone else I see
I’d just allow a fragment of your life
to wander free
Cause’ losing everything
is like the sun going down on me

….applause and his focus returns …but those words that mean so much in his life of extremes..

"Don’t discard me (baby don’t)
Just because you think I mean your harm
(Just because you think I mean your harm, oh)"

for "CS" ,this world, right now , feels SO good, the people here seem friendly, a little bit too "clicky" but not in a bad way..Delano understands & clicks his fingers with the beat, and attractive ladies spark his male desire, "LBA" made a "freudian slip" (" have ALL NIGHT to listen to your story"…oh really? <BIG SMILES>…then later, after Diana & he partner seranade us, he asks LBA to dance…the first time the rhythm was slightly out, but by the third one, oh that good feeling of having a lady "lean on me" her head slightly on his shoulder and they move together more easily & slowly, everyone watches them, for the second time in a month a young lady danced like this with him..last time afterwards all the woman in the bar wanted to dance with him .that "scent of a woman" feeling…

BUT, last time also, that lady (Christelle?), who almost seduced him with her young body fitting so close, the next night ignored him, (her boy-toy was around) and the other one (Ezrra?) actually apologised because she has a boyfriend…"warning" messages..but his life is too short for such fear…the "tasting" finishes and 2 of the ladies go to eat, leaving LBA & her boyfriend there, & another couple, she wanted to make him jealous? well the way he whisks her off before CS can offer to "show her the city" seems to indicate that dancing & a little flirting with CS did the trick…

She tells CS her "twiitter" name as she kisses his cheek goodbye, he remembers that he also has one, but finds all that a bit "gay" and although he mails & writes a lot, for him "facebook" is more than enough "private networking" he recalls he has a (twiitter) pseudonym & tells her & the others..(though he dont expect them to remember…people these days just dont bother, everyones so "busy" with themselves..hyves, facebook, linkedin & now twiter etc etc people dotn DO anything,anymore?.. at least , it seems nothing exciting… ) it was a good evening, but those lyrics (as always he needs to react positively to a "neggie" ) push him into the progressive, "lets party" he says to himself, the wines OK , the atmospheres good, the ladies said they will come back after dinner, but anyway the voice of Diana is enough to enjoy..she sings an upbeat number so he gets a young student girl to dance…sure, he thinks, people will comment about the age difference, but why should it matter, why cant people just have fun & enjoy others doing so..?.)

CS grew up in those days when the "merseybeat" rocked the world, music, dance, concerts, parties and clubbing where the genders actually came TOGETHER for enjoyment! (then disco) and of course footy..he still tries to recreate the "atmosphere & attitude" and often succeeds, hey, and give some money from organising the FFF ("Footy, FUN & international FRIENDship weekends") to the kids charity…he talks to Diana, chats to her partner, drinks some more wine before B & M return and after another round its off to "singel"..until early next morn..

Saturday…ouch!…A BIG hangover!!!! ….memory not so good, but that dance & "scent of a woman" feeling comes back through the daze…sh*te, what was the (twitter) pseudonym of that lady…LBA?…

does he still remember his own pseudonym?…really, would like to see her again..has an instinct that she needs "council" , at times like these he recalls the past & the people he has met, all with a reason..,each being a part of the puzzle,.his "talent" of using experience & ability to ask the right questions (and get the answers) always helped the others – but he himself?…

so he "searches" twiitter, and also tries some other ideas, puts some (intentional) funny/desperate messages on the sites of likely candidates, sends an email to a shop where he (thinks) she might have said she works..then bingo! …one of the sites theres a "tweet" that roughly translated says "anyone know the pseudonym of that great guy from LIverpool from the tasting last night…was it….."…so CS reacts YES it was…but dont be arrogant & writes a message…BUT problem is that these "twiiter" PM’s are as useless as an sms in stating any "depth" …so he thinks , well, he told her that he was PROVOCATIVE (he said she is "modest" but thats just another way of him saying "i like you"…) ..ok sending "identifying" Pm’s (via twiiter & linkedin) to LBA (maybe its not even her as there are several with the same name…but chances are…) …make them "provocative" ..no mystery, no time, or SPACE fot that…(politically correct) BS! …

He invites her on an adventure, or to an FFF weekend..testing her humour, try to open the door..why bother though?..why put himself out "there" again …CS has had so many extremes ; on the positive(?) captained his teams, first (only) in his family or school to travel abroad, live abroad, start a union, start an enterprise, make a million before he was thirty, co-founder of "human shields"…many experiences many influences from the people he met, a multi-cultural rollercoaster with the tragic too…a meningitis -induced coma changed his life into charity…no surpise that he lost his parents, his sister & wife died of cancer, his adult son died through neglect by his first wife, and 2 children of the "next generation" snatched from him (an ambush no less) which led to a 12 year long fight with "fee-male fortresses" governments & insitutions which even now is petitioned at the EU..trusting anyone would be difficult for most people but he still opened up to women, whose modern tendency has become he saw "something" in LBA…

"Cause’ losing everything
is like the sun going down on me"


Sunday, a "stiff" reply comes back…CS thinks .."of course" the PM’s etc seem "desperate" …as he was "desperately" trying to make contact with the intention of a quick meeting (as he was due to drive via where he thimks she works) ..where is HER sensitivity…he had read her "blog"…ah she is trapped in that modern fee-male situation, a young ambitious woman working to better herself also hiding behind books & OTHER peoples lives…she quotes Zen etc , but does she apply it…honestly..CS ;doesnt she realise that she needs to lean on you?…she quotes "Anna" from Notting hill, yet forgets the cold & bitchy way that character acted & repeats the crime..

"Don’t discard me (baby don’t)
Just because you think I mean your harm
(Just because you think I mean your harm, oh)"


Monday…but CS has never "given up" on a good thing…and he knows that somewhere in that troubled lady is a good person..trying to do the right thing…so, as he has to drive that way, he takes a Rose, and smiles…remembers those days in Freiburg ..when he used to buy whole bunches of roses from the sellers who came round the bar, and just give them to every female in the bar, young old, pretty or not..the smiles were worth every pfenig..now if he did that the women would probably get angry, as it could be "sexual harrasment"…so, having had a "curious" encounter with her "wine selling" boyfriend in the street on the way!!!!…ego tucked in his socks, rose hidden in a bag, he reaches out for LBA …hoping that she is there, but she isnt, so he has to ask another (man) in the reception area, this isnt a good feeling..exposed..LBA is busy, …brick wall…he backs off, she refuses the Rose, …what???????????…in all those years no one ever refused the rose!…he tells her "when you need someone to talk to " …(you know where I am) ..thats funny, because HE usually dont know where hes going to be..

Then later, near Antwerp he checks the Net, wow, like a "neutron bomb" she has wiped out all contacts, & blocked him…he just wanted to tell her that she should lose her ego & trust in his experience, because…CS is " someone with a strong shoulder she can rely on. She can hug. Who takes her into his world"..but she will probably never realise it…because whe he opened the doot to life, she slammed it in his face!…

"Don’t discard me (baby don’t)
Just because you think I mean your harm
(Just because you think I mean your harm, oh)"


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EuRED Direct Action ("Grass Routes") Network /ChriS SMITH

Postbus #1

Bist 129, B2180 Antwerp-EKEREN, Belgie




Ciao R,

I wnated to tell you that I didnt leave last saturday, in fact because of the storms & traffic problems, and I waited in the bar again saturday night, talking to Paula (barmaid) & hoping you would come there. I hope you have a good sense of humour because I gave Paula a poem to give to you..

We meet on a saturday night?

only 3 days after your divorce

I wanted to hold you tight

but its too early for you, too much "force"

I hope next time you trust

tp dance with me & more…

this is not a "must" ..

because I still believe in "amore"



I am in the Netherlands, and I am sometimes staying in a small city called Zwolle, and sometimes on the frontier between Eindhoven & Antwerp..if U want to visit me you are welcome. I would like to know you better, and for you to know me. I dont ask for anything, so soon after your divorce, but I can talk, or listen, dance or be quiet, have fun or be serious if you want to test me.write in italian or english to my email : ChriS@eured-san.net or hotmail/msn ; eured@live.nl

take care

you’ll never walk alone, with hope in your heart…

ChriS Smith x

p.s I plan to return to Lasino/Lagolo end august/september 


CS>thanks for the questions & for asking me to write this article , in fact I would like to refer it to my recently ended "relationship" with a local woman who lets just call "JD"…

My mother was great, loving & wise, and worked even when sick herself for the community, she was socially engaged , secretay gerneral of the regional socialist party & a great cook & mother to 4 children, she survived WW2 and bombings of our neighbourhood whilst raising 3 of her children not knowing when my father …Tv addicts could recognise the sort of woman she was in the character "Maxine gray" in the series "judging amy" …

She told me to respect girls, and I was shy as a teenager, devoted to "footy" , so that was easy as they scared me, and she also advised me to "treat them as you would want your sister to be treated"…she loved me and I loved my mother as a good son should..with all my heart, my honest father was the quiet one but equally a major influence in his way…My mum died almost 10 years ago, and I wasnt told at the time, as the german authorities (a female "beamte" ) interfered with correspondence for me.

This is only an "compacted insight" & a very, very long & deep story made short, the females I list are not all the women that have been in my life, but they played the major part in the "ChriStory" ..although I refer to them in my "first book" this is the only time I have explained why I am so disappointed in what is happening to other gender…

Gloria…not really my first "love" (I probably felt more for a girl at school that I never even kissed) although I wasnt a virgin when I met her , she was certainly the first sexual relationship..she played off my naivety and I married her when we were both 19 & adopted her daughter (Sarah) who was 6 months old from a guy who "ran off"..we had Adam, the next year, she played housewife & left me the following year after I got a 4-bedroomed house for us..because I worked "too much" she found a "younger guy"..i was devastated..to lose the kids (i treated them the same..maybe even giving more attention to Sarah, than Adam..) ..I paid a third of my income for her & the kids until they were no longer children.. Ididnt see much of them in the first 2 years after our divorce , it was too hard for everyone .I looked after them alternative weekends later but I was always the one to "discipline" as Gloria was weak..she then allowed them to be assaulted by one of her many "friends"….her lack of care indirectly led to a crewed up daughter & my son Adam becoming pschyso, he died in hospital 10 years ago..& Gloria even benefited from his death, being paid off…!

Gaye, probably the only real girl -FRIEND I have ever had, she was the sister of my mates girlfriend..and came to watch me play football..and then she watched every game, rain or shine..we had fun , we danced , we shared feelings and we were true to each otherI had a maisonette in London , which when we seperated (i fell in love with HER best girlfriend; Jacqui) …after 5 years living together (unmarried but the same as man/wife)I gave her half the profit from the sale..we even went on holiday together with her & Trevor from our footy team , her sister & her sisters new husband..she evn picked out the ring with me for Jacqui when I proposed..it might have been a different life completely if she had been my wife,,,but thats (my) life…

Jacqui…beautiful inside & out, loved by everyone..at a xmas party of the firm where she worked with Gaye, I was invited too, her previous boyfriend was acting like an a**hole , and I felt protective, & something clicked when we danced, a rail strike meant that I gave her a lift a few times…but I didnt try to take it further, and then I just went to her parents home, and told her that I had fallen in love with her,,he boyfriend threatened me, but i didnt care…I had started the wine services (S & S ) and was captain at footy , LFC were winning everything, and with Jacqui everything seemed perfect..I let her choose a house she liked to live in, .but her neraby family (mother – in law) was run by women , who bossed the guys & made every decision, I resented & resisted that & something went wrong and somehow our perfect life cracked…I was UNfair to Jacqui & became "workaholic" & aggressive when I came back drunk from a wine trade meeting , I was disappointed that she didnt want the (sick) Adam to live with us….. I was wrong to have casual "affairs" when celebrating business success away from home, (up to 3 months a time abroad, I didnt sleep alone much) and then along came Linda, although we "survived" that temporary split & for a time were very close we lived seperate lives & although I met her again in Freiburg (in fact the party I had arranged for her was interupted by Leons birth) Jacqui (who never told ME she wanted kids) was probably the one I could have had a family with. she once wrote me the most wonderful letter saying she would stay with me & love me forever…but…..eventually told me "enough" and after 12 years "marriage" I stopped living in GB completely and moved most of my stuff (a full container )abroad too.I kept in touch & we phoned every month, but , When i was in Freiburg/Alsace ("alternative/eco-centre of europe") I asked her to come & stay with me (as friend) because she had cancer, her BITTER sister was against me..so she didnt, and stopped contact with me, Karen buried Jacquie on MY birthday in 2005 & didnt even bother telling me, I found out when I tried to trace her when I went over to London the following year…I was shocked & hurt as I loved her deeply, always.

Linda, was 5 years older than me…but I had known her since I was a boy , as she was my Brother’s wife’s sister…very attractive , blond..popular & funny ..good company..and in a job, although manager, that she didnt like…and I was looking for a Sales Director for my new wine company …we spent a lot of time together, ate dinner out at restaurants and one night after a few bottles of wine, I asked her if she liked sex…the response was that we made love everywhere..in the office, in warehouse, kitchen of her house..After I told Jacqui there was even a time when we 3 almost shared a house..but I chose to go back with Jacqui, and for "revenge" Linda told me she had cancer and was away from work, but at the same time used all the knowledge I had given her & things I taught her about management, worked together with enemies & competitiors to ruin me…she even lied to my brother to cause hime to attack me physically…I was knocked down by my own brother because of her, and that meant that 2 of the most important people in my life my brother & Linda were no longer on my side…we lost everything ..a business group worth a million, our bank accounts were frozen,..clients warned off & bank funds disappeared…our house & wine bar was ransacked & the warehouse emptied of wine stock..Jacqui had to go back to her old job & I lived from GBP 100 per week…until I found something to prove her (fraud) accusations wrong …but it was too late..we had lost everything…I employed lawyers & detectives to track her down (which cost 5 years later she phoned me up to say "sorry" but hung up before I could reply…she stayed in the wine trade but I lost my brother through her, and I have never seen her since 23 years!

Sabine, was a friend of Mattheus & Regina whom I knew from "round table" & Freiburg she invited me to stay with her when I was re-locating my Hamburg office, (I had been staying with a family in elshorn previously) after completing my move away from UK..she was a simple girl, she worked in an office, I taught her english, but we spoke german together , I has working "at home-office" a lot (which she thought meant that I was not too busy!!!..on the contrary I worked more, having less travelling time) & she enjoyed "attacking me" (sexually) when SHE came back from her work…she was "fit" so i had to be too <smile> ..Ithink she wanted more from me, but when I started travelling again, she became negative (jealous) and one day I just found my stuff outside the apartment , and as I didnt have a "rental contract" (we just shared costs equally in trust) I had no legal chance, especially as a foreigner in "germoney" (dont let them fool U, in reality there is "zero auslaender tolerance" underneath the main society)…so I went back to Freiburg & was invited to work with the "Saxony development corp." in Dresden, so I was travelling from Freiburg to Dresden , from south west to north east , on a regular basis.

Franziska, I met her wine-maker ex-husband "Ernst" (and he was!) in Ravensburg at a "round table" meeting (i was voted "european R-T of the year" so was "fanous" in the organisation at international board level) …he gave me his card, and told me to "come by & taste the wines" …so one friday there was a massive "stau" on the autobahn between Dresden & Freiburg & as I approached Wurzburg I recalled the invite..I phoned & Franziska was there..not too friendly Ernst was busy with a "sext festival" (!) for guests…but I could by & stay in the neighbours B & B …that evening he was busy with clients and I sat with her , talking then mildly flirting..and (as usual) I was the first to dance , with her,,,I went to the B & B & next day just as I was going to leave she invited me to see Wurzburg (festung etc) I told her "I have had it with women") later Ernst said "dont go" Franziska invites U to stayon our guest couch-bed..and we were alone again…drinking good wines laughing & dancing & that night she came into MY bed, whilst HE was sleeping in theirs (he was snoring completely drunk) was exciting erotic & dangerous,.she told me life had been so boring (they were "king & queen" of the small town near Wurzburg) & had no love since her daughter was born 2 years before but stayed together for "image"…I told her I was moving into a new apartment in Freiburg, and she followed me there , bringing her little girl…I wanted to make this my family – base, but again SHE was jealous when I travelled & suspected any female contact…she left me whilst I was travelling just before xmas.*& moved to her own flat in Wurzburg , to be near her sister (she said) ..but even so, afterwards I took her on a (RT) cruise of the bahamas…and when I saw even this didnt make her happy I stopped trying to rescue us,..she later married a very RICH german RT guy…(i was just the "bridge")…she (also) left a letter saying "I will love you forever"…(an alternative to the "dear john")

Annika, I met her not long after I came out of a week-long coma, I had "dropped out" after spending 7 years on a massive enterprise project initiative of mine involving multi-media networking, and upon (early) release from a belgian hospital returned to freiburg, I was invited, with others, soon after to join a lake-side grill party & to sleep by the lake (under the stars for the first time in my life) but I had discovered that my current girlfriend (another regina) had been sleeping with an irish lad whilst I was away..towards the end of the night I glanced over at a couple sitting nearby and invited them to join our feast…Annika was also angry wth her boyfriend and she was soon leaving him to go to Berlin, he left and we talked & talked until the early hours, and when I walked her to her car by the lake & said goodnight , we hugged & it was like seeing ourselves in a film..I had to see her again, I phoned & she told me she was going to berlin so no point in meeting, but i left messages & when she came back to Freiburg we went to the cinema (with others) & I wrote to her, she invited me to her flat-warming party in berlin..and the relationship started , intensely & passionately & I made her pregnant..I was so happy, as I had so little contact with my "first" family (both in GB; Adam was sick & Sarah had 3 kids of her own to care for).

….but we had different ideas..she was a stubborn person..but we agreed to share the responsibility of our child; Leon , who was born (at home in a wonedrful atmosphere) near Freiburg,a healthier place (environmentally) …we rented a house, I moved my furniture there, we shared costs & I still had a "penthouse home-office" in Freiburg city (altstadt) …but when I "resigned" from the business , a lot of people got pi**ed off with me (because they would not be rich from it) & started rumours…("mafia" cultist , "scientologist" ) …I was "born again" and had many creative idaes (even though I was "in convalesence" )..I was raided by police (without warrant) and when I told Annika she coldly replied "U must have done something, they dont do that without cause" ) ..it killed my feelings for her…and I moved back to the city, we shared the time, Annika wanted to start her own theatre (L.U.S.T ) & continue her band "Shinore" & one-woman-act for kids shows..I looked after Leon until…I was raided again & moved to a (female) Freinds house (Ankelika) to share, Annika was jealous & started to make problems about the "sharing" schedule…until one day , when Leon was about 30 months old, I went to pick him up from her house & they had moved…and told the autorities to give no info to me!!…I already had started a complaint about the police raid and I took this to the ECHR Strasbourg & organised "resistance" for others too that had been abused by the "system" & female exploitation of it…

IMO, Annika didnt want Adam to live with us, stole my son & hid behind the german system (It led to 12 years & 54 complaints against german police, social workers, judges & attorneys) ..I get NO information about Leon, I send him presents, birthday & Xmas & souvenirs from my travels..but no letters or phone calls & have seen him a total of 30 minutes in the last 7 years (because Annika just shuts the door & phones the police if I complain)…

Sarah..my Adopted daughter ..(she had the terrible job of phoning me when I was with Margit, to tell me Adam had died in hospital) .is in her thirties now, told me that I was more respected than her mother (Gloria) …when I visited her family, she was with Steve (an LFC fan) she had 3 kids…my grandchildren, as such..and she told me that Gloria had LIED to them & said that I had left them , not Gloria had left me…& although she loved her mother, I will always be her father..in spirit…Sarah was (& is ) wild & left Steve recently because of a younger guy, repeating the act of her mother…..I will visit her next time in UK..

Margit..I met whilst teaching alternative enterprise & global english language & mostly running the social side of an english school in Freiburg, she was a "mature" student (33 at the time) improving her languages for her (own) environmental business & for fun..she told me that she liked english guys…(especially thr male teachers) but had "only flirted" so far as she was hooked up with a local (Thomas) …we met a few times for coffee & a chat, once she tried to kiss me after dancing, but she was still with thomas, I refused, then after walking her home after we were out in a group, Thomas accused us of "stuff" she left him & came to me the next day..we lived seperate for a while, and after the next "raid" …moved in toghether..I helped her with english & to organise her time in her office work, I educated her in world affairs & she saw me looking after Leon…she saw how brutal Annika was, & margit told me "U are a GOOD man, , a good father I would never do THAT..to U.." but…I was detained for Investigation (U-halft) during the time i wsa "complaining" ..I was accused of being "subversive" <smile> I was not convicted but held for a long time without trial (famously starting a Union to psupport other people whose rights were similarly violated by the "system"

…but then she went (against my wishes) to Malta & I later challenged her that she had an "affair" there, despite that I FORGAVE her & we tried to start a family, but we had problems & decided to part, one week later she told me she was pregnant (Noela)…she was extreme during prenancy one time with me next time against me then went to find her lover & I told her whilst I would be there for the baby I would not support her,,,her nazi family put pressure on her to keep away from me, but then she came & told me "I choose U, ChriS, I choose US & a life together, forever…" she was a coward at birth , but I stayed with her then after I had cooked cleaned, shopped & looked aftter our baby, she asked me to leave the apartment, but I had a family home in Alsace lined up, and soon i demanded the equal custody that we had agreed upon (with her lawyer) , this worked, more or less, politely until I accidentally discovered that margit was going to take Noela away to be with an unknown man who was into "S & M"

…I reacted by keeping Noela at my place whilct asking Margit for an honest explanation, instead she LIED & threatened me, but the local (alsace, france) police were on my side, so margit (unknown to me) registered Noela in frieburg with "father unknown" status (i.e. single mother , then ambushed me with 2 "heavies" in the woods near the house where Noela & I lived..they took her over the german border (only 5kms away & then told the german police that I had attacked THEM etc..after getting no-where I used different people , friends & organisations to get to see Noela following several months of seperation…then margit registered a formal complaint & a bogus accusation that I was living in "germoney" illegally…I added this scandal to my list of complaints (after they hald me & released me without conviction again) & margit was then at risk if I succeeded for lying to the court, so she disappeared to Dublin, I have seen Noela for a total of 20 minutes since 2005, the last time when I went to Dublin & her mother kicked the bag o f birthday presents out of my hand when I tried to give them to Noela outside their Dublin residence…my apeal at the european court of human rights included margits violations (again she exploited the abuse ingrained in the system, which is unequal despite being called "democratic" ) the so called "female emancipation" has led to a gender- biased society in family affairs wheerby women ; such as Annika & margit can "get preganant & own the child, leaning on state prejudice , excluding the natural father, by hook or crook"…

Heidi had english parents, & was a nurse in Freiburg, was someone I met whilst going through difficult times with margit, she treated me well for organising a charity concert in 1999 be-friended me & I lent her my 40 year old album collection, (impossible to replace) she wanted me to leave margit & go with her, when I said "sorry" she let her next boyfriend sell them! – when I argued that she was wrong, she acted as if I was the one who had acted badly.

Christelle, (french-algerian) was a witness to margit’s violations and during the winter (2005) after they kidnapped Noela we were together, either at her flat in Mulhouse or at my home in Geiswaser, I helped her learn english, & the internet & her home-gourmet services, teaching her about wine..she had a young son, whom I looked after when she was out at the various functions she supplied. One weekend when I was in LIVERPOOL for a footy game, she phoned me in a strange mood, accusing me of "laughing at her" …she met me at the airport with all the clothes etc I had at her flat in the back, & dumped me at my neighbours (as my own house was frozen) & she couldnt explain her decision (probably met a guy the weekend I was away) she cried all over our friends, as if it was MY fault>>>

Angie,she is probably the longest time i have ever had a platonic relationship with a woman, she wasnt much more than a beautiful woman-child when I met her, and although at times I have felt like a big brother, father, uncle or advisor to her, we seem, however long we are apart, to becoming real friends, I saw her (she’ s a singer-songwriter) perform in a frieburg pub..she distrusted me (& almost everyone) but I sort of "adopted" her, sometimes managed her, & listened to her rehearsals in her apartment often sleeping on the floor after we talked until the early hours, I took her to Paris & Liverpool, shared a room, even a bed (not for sex), & her weird likings, enjoyed her company & admired her talent. She is now in Berlin and I hope we can share her 30th birthday in september (9/11!!) …

Three of these women ruined the most loving relationship a man can have, for his children, the bond is broken & can NEVER be repaired…and it says much that the last woman in my life has done WORSE…

JD…there is much I could say or write about her, and I met her in Zwolle(a small dutch city), 2 years & 1000s of emails & so many hateful sms ago …her constant mood changes, drunken agression, broken promises & betrayal, why is she the worst of all?…because I told her all the above, I shared my pain , despite my experiences I FORGAVE her so many times & "trusted" a woman with my feelings , listened most of the time to her "problems"…and even then she could not be true ..she finally destroyed the love I had for a partner in me…and now all I want is (not revenge) but JUSTICE!

p.s. and of course NOela…my little girl , she (with son Leon) is one of 2 huge HOLES in my heart , it doesn’t go aaway, every day the hurt is there…how I enjoyed her living with me most of the first 30 months of her life…some years ago, this is what I wrote for her…

poem: tears through a closing door

in my arms for a minute

in my view for an hour

forever possessing my heart

thats my little girl

today in the rain

i surpress the pain

to be with her again

before she leaves on a train

what does a woman know

how a father feels

denied his flesh and blood

wounds my soul and never heals

how can humanity survive

is anyone alive

caring about the future years

has cost me more than five

losing time is bad enough

whilst time passes me by

her tears cut me in half

as we once again say good bye…..

through a closing door…

ChRiS Smith



 Neil Thomas

I’ll put it in the diary!


2009/6/29 ChriS EuRED

next tourny ZonderEigen 14/16th August 09
..next year Zwolle, ZonderEigen & MAD-REDS/Madrid ??? (may21/24, 2010?)


Subject: VH90629 ChriS (UTube Video) RE: LibZw 90624 Liverpoolfans-veroveren-Zwolle
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:48:21 +0200

ChriS> ………..and more "incriminating evidence" @ ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-_eLxJM4_c

(thanks to Colin & Hans)

p.s. whose that ‘old bruce-willis-look-a-like" trying to kid that he can still play? <smile>


Subject: LibZw 90624 Liverpoolfans-veroveren-Zwolle
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:57:57 +0200


ChriS> last weekend// 456 euros raised for kids cancer victims, unknown amount for HJC awareness (between 250/300 euros pledged) happy days at FFF weekends..join us in ZonderEigen 14/16 august…?

personal comments ;

report & pics at
http://cid-a73c195bb9885b12.spaces.live.com )

> From: eured@live.com
> To: footz@chrismith.eu
> CC:
> Subject: LibZw 90624 Liverpoolfans-veroveren-Zwolle
> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:39:51 +0200
> EuRED Direct Action "Grass Routes" Network 90623 ; Footy, FUN & FRIENDship " Special " (inc the Euro NOT without-me CUP 09 …see "ZReDS"website http://zredszwolle.nl )
> http://www.deweekkrant.nl/artikel/2009/juni/21/roby_fc_winnaar_van_internationaal_seniorentoernoo
> http://www.destentor.nl/sport/grootzwolle/5148647/Liverpoolfans-veroveren-Zwolle.ece
> Liverpool-fans veroveren Zwolle
> door Peter Dekkers. maandag 22 juni 2009 | 09:46 | Laatst bijgewerkt op: maandag 22 juni 2009 | 18:45
> Tekstgrootte
> Liverpool-fans vermaken zich in Zwolle. foto Frans Paalman
> ZWOLLE – "FC Liverpool is meer dan voetbal, het is een religie.” Chris Smith, speler van Be Quick 10 en gepassioneerd aanhanger van de legendarische voetbalclub uit zijn geboorteplaats is een echte. Hoeveel fan moet je zijn om ziel en zaligheid te storten in het organiseren van een toernooi gespeeld om de ‘Euro-Not-Without-Me’ cup. "Mijn voornaamste drijfveer is de fun en relationship tussen Liverpool-fans uit heel Europa. Met voetbal en ‘a few beers’ komt het helemaal goed.”
> En dus speelt er zaterdag een bonte mix van spelers uit Zwolle, de regio en Liverpool op het on-Engelse kunstgras van Be Quick’28. Geplaagd door de naweeën van de welkomsparty heeft Smith het zweet op de kop. De fans uit Madrid en Brussel komen later in verband met verkeerschaos. "Maakt niet uit, dan spelen wij met een eigen clubje wel onder Spaanse vlag.” En dus zien we Smith voetballen met maatje Colin Latham van SVI 4, ook al zo’n Nederlandse Liverpool fan. Latham kwam acht jaar geleden vanuit Liverpool naar Zwolle. Zijn liefde voor ‘The reds’ was toen al levenslang verzegeld. " Mijn moeder was zes maanden zwanger tijdens de Europacupwedstrijd tegen Bayern München. Het was dringen op de tribune en een cordon van Liverpool fans ging om mijn moeder staan om mij te beschermen. Zo wordt je dus als Liverpool fan geboren.”
> De afgereisde fans uit Liverpool zijn erg onder de indruk van de accommedatie van Be Quick’28. "Is dit een amateurclub? Wow!” Lee Whittingham komt woorden tekort om zijn gevoel voor Liverpool te omschrijven. "Telkens als ik ‘You’ll never walk alone’ hoor, krijg ik kippenvel. Dit lied wordt overal geassocieerd met onze prachtige club. Laatst was ik met een groepje in het Polen van Jerzy Dudek, de held van die schitterende finale tegen AC Milan. Toen die Polen doorkregen dat we uit Liverpool kwamen zong de hele kroeg voluit ‘You’ll never walk alone’, machtig!”
> Volgens teamgenoot Tom Kirby moet je z’n vader niet laten kiezen tussen moeder de vrouw of FC Liverpool. "Dat komt niet goed voor ‘my mom.’ Bij mijn geboorte werd ze vroegtijdig ingeleid vanwege de cupfinal die Liverpool moest spelen.”
> "From the hospital to Wembly”, grinnikt vader David. Terwijl de dames van Be Quick 3 de knapste boys uit Liverpool toejuichen gaat er alweer een schrijven rond voor een volgend toernooi in België. De opbrengst daar gaat naar de nabestaanden van de Hillsborough slachtoffers. Deze stadionramp waar 96 fans de dood vonden, draagt elke Liverpool fan ook na twintig jaar nog mee. "Sommige mensen vinden dat we de ramp maar een keer af moeten sluiten, maar dat kan toch niet”, reageert Latham. "Voor de nabestaanden is ‘the Hillsborough door’ never closed. Never!”
> .
> Background
> ——————————-
> to our theme ; Football FUN & FRIENDship – for "Euro-NOT-Without-me CUP09 " phase 1-Zwolle
> THis initiative started early in 2007 & was a connection by ChriS Smith (a member of the "veteran BQ#10 team) via "Europe-based LIVERPOOL supporters " to the winners of the HJC cup ("Hillsborough Justice campaign"(justice badge?)LIVERPOOL every last weekend of the Premiere league season to promote not only awareness but to make friends …our extension of this is to include all football fanatics & enthusiasts, fans or non fans across europe.. the "Not without me" weekend in August 2008 took it to the next stage, involving teams & friends from Benelux …local teams & fans and visitors from LIVERPOOL & Brussels..especially to follow the POSITIVE example of LIVERPOOLs world-famous "kopites" (and extinguish "hooliganism" ….)…"You’ll Never Play Alone"


For your current account :

ChriS>Hiya Div, hope U & family, teaMates etc are all Ok…

I am still around as I came back because I didnt hear from Tom (he didnt reply to my sms, phone or email, so I travelled nearly 200 kms back to Ze, just to find that he got back here on Friday (flight delayed 3 days!), anyway below is the info on the hostal I know in MADrid (no big brekkie there either <smile>) – I just sent this email to TEST the situation, because that weekend is looking "favourite" …maybe U can check out the avilability / price too because I suspect that they will be booked early…(last night at the cafe Gunther & his customer "Dickens" told me they are ready for MADrid….<smile>)
as for "ZonderEigen 09 weekend 14/16 august" I have asked sarah about the teams budget because I dont think we can put those older guys in a tent this year, and Maybe we will have to collect them from Schipol…anyone with a "bus" ???

I had a look at your clubhouse – its comong along fine eh? .. dont forget Gunther has a nice Anfield tapestry, the Rafa picture & 2 Flags (LIVERPOOL & everton) that I gave him for the clubhouse… ;)
take care

is it possible to reserve rooms for 20 people (6 x 2 sharing & 2 x4 sharing) ? for 21/24 May 2010?



(90715-19) GRoutes-EuRED-ChriSinTransit-tour.(CH-IT)..for ZReDS & EdAGn Members & friends..&…

.as U may know apart from organising 2 x"FFF (footy fun & friendship) weekends, planning next years "FFF" Madrid & etc, co-hosting the pirates meeting & touring…I just came back from 5 days & 2500 kms driving the old "ZBus" over mountains etc..I went to watch LFC play a friendly @ "St.Gallen" (CH) then to my old wine agent/friend (Domenico ;

www.pravis.it ) & spent last weekend by his summer house in the mountains near Trento (it) …until friday night there was a storm , which literally moved the bus & caused areas of CH & the tirol to be decalred "catastrophe" as some people got killed by extreme weather . the remperature dropped 20 degrees in 24 hrs…heavy rain & gakle-storms on the route I planned to go to Wien …to support LFCV@ "FC Rapid Vienna"..but decided to return to Zw. & got back here yesterday evening after 16 hours & 1200 kms driving…with a "dodgy" gear-shift (coupling)..

On Tuesday 14th June , I was still waiting for the ticket agents of FC StGallen (CH) to confirm they have a ticket other than the "VIP" price (about e115!) but I felt I real;ly needed to see the first game (even afriendly) of this new & vital season (09/10) …

I left about 06hrs on wednesday After about 10 hours slow driving from Zwiolle in the "Zbus" I pulled into St Gallen..hoping to see signs for ASG (arena) but after 3 tries from locals’ directions I found the "arena" in the middle of a massive shopping complex…I was directed by a steward to the underground (vip) parking and even there was few signs for the footy…eventually I found the "kasse sud" and asked what tickets , they had plenty @ 25-30 , so i got a 30ch (e20) ticket! …the game was typical ST Gallen having already a few weeks warm up …made it difficult for the mixture of 26 players Rafa used (wheres dAgger?) ASG probably had the better of the first half but after changing all the players at half time the REDS team in the 2nd half (with "new boy " Glen Johnson doing fairly well…) put some moves together, had most of the play & came close to snatching a winner in the dying minutes (this "ethic" thankfully preserved from last season when we won so many games in the closing stages) …

Another reason for developing "Ko-OP UNlimited" is that 2 unofficial guys (not scouse accents) were selling "souvenir" scarves (half/half) ourside the stadium @ 20euros each (double the normal price, in a so-called time of financial crisis) ok, so, this is the (rich) "swiss market" where money is (more than usual) everything..BUT…it is bad enough that the ticket agent is ripping fans off, but RED support should be identified and not exploited for our fanatical support of LFC…As LFC DID NOT OFFER any tickets for the game, the few thousand fans (not any "usual faces" that I could see) were scattered around the stadium so with most of them being "casuals" and young the home support was the one to be heard, it was significant that my own LFC flag was the onyl one hitched up in the stadium…I had a drink whilst waiting for the departing fans then drove back into the city, which was VERY quiet* a glass at the american bar was just before they closed and a "Thai" bar was where I had my last drink (I think the girls there were offering "extras" but I didnt hang around, as the journey and lack of sleep convinced me to say "goodnight" )

Thursday 07hrs, a helicopter overhead woke me@ my parking place near the station, soon I was having coffee , yoghurt & croissant at the station bar in St G…before making my way slowly to Bag Regaz (the training camp of the LFC squad) …the skies were blue yet the early morning mist as I traversed the mountain roads gave the route & scenery a beautiful view but erie & surreal atmosphere…thankfully i wa still half asleep, as the drop at the side of some of the narrow mountain roads might have made me nervous!. had I not stopped for another "wake up " coffee enroute I would have been at Bad Regas within the hour, …even so I was still there before Rafas lads , apart from M. Pelligrino, who later took charge of the coaching session. As my eating habits had been pretty poor I had an early salad lunch at the nearby "Zoo" cafe..(where I taught the parrott to say "LIV-ER-POOL" ..maybe it could work with som of our "quieter" fans?) …

I watched Maurice for a while use a popular keep – ball method then mix it up with short-ball-long-ball techniques…then had a chat with the guy who works at the club & invited their own team to one of our next "Footy FUN & (international) Friendship" weekends…my next stop would be near Trento (Trentino) and fortunately (as I was taking the non-motorway route) the training camp was on the way ….but I still had some 250-300 kms of mountains to get through, not easy with the "ZBuS" having a gear-box needing renwal..after a while the temperature was nearing 30 (& the engine was much hotter !) so I stopped regularly (the road was often 2000m + above sea level) ..and when in Davos , I decided to have a swim (in-famous for "G8" meetings…NO, not GERRARD number 8…) ..and Davis is PROBABLY where my MOBILE phone was LOST or STOLEN….I didnt notice until I was "climbing" the next mountain..

Not being able to call ahead to my old friend & wine agent from 25 years ago (Domenco ; see http://www.pravis.it) I was under pressure to get to Lasino before their office closed at 18h…so I used the expensive autostrada between Bolzano & Trento, (Lasino is a few kms south of Trento on the road to Riva (del garda)

…Domenico & Lina were waiting for me when I arrived at the mountainside "Cantina" (not "Kantine" JandeG)…& kindly took me to park the "Zbus" by their sumerhouse @ "lago de lagalo" (italian speakers might smile at this name) …then to dinner another 30 mins FURTHER UP in the mountains..to Mt.Bondone…we ate a sort of italian ragout with "polente" which used to be poor people’s food before it became "trandy" ..(25 years ago I took Linda to the region & she asked the winery owner what it was , the lady replied "mais" , but in her accent sounded like "mice"…& was surprised when Linda replied "no thanks" ;-) ….)..

Friday 17 July..starts with a pre-brekkie bath in the lake then I visit Trento (citta0, Riva & Torbole (del Garda) …bringing back so many sweet & sour memories of 25 +years ago when I was a wizz-kid high-flyer making a million in the Trentino wine export trade..success & fun but sometimes too "careless" also ;-( …(talking of "high-flyer" another helicopter passes over the city) ..I wandered aimlessly through Trento (centro-citta) stopping only to buy & eat some fresh fruit from the market…& have a coffee at the piazza Duomo…(U know that small italian expresso which seems just to be made of powder & sugar with a few drops of water in it..) ..The Trento concilio is famous for its part 500 years ago in the story of religion ..then I drove to nearby Riva & Torbole (lake garda) but it was crowded with tourists (usually german) so I didnt stay & returned to Lasino…Domenico & Lina OFFER OUR CLUB MEMBERS their COMMERCIAL price list – 5% discount !!!! …(NO credit , advance payment or paypal/card payment )…I hope to organise a small "wine-tasting" in Zwolle or ZonderEigen..soon, we could become a "ZReDS culture club" <smile> ???

(Note; quality Trentino wines can cost , in a cafe/bar, as little as e1,50 a glass, and coffee, which costs e2-2,50 elsewhere ; LESS than 1 euro a cup)

I had a another afternoon swim & siesta (another helicopter overhead?) then a few glasses of quality wines at "Clandestino" (bar on the lake) before dinner of Polente/formaggio/funghi (cheese & wild mushrooms) at the local pizzeria before returning to the bar to talk to the nice (& recently divorced) "Robbie" (a mojito-lover) until closing time..


I was awake in the night a wild storm with wind & rain that literally shook the "Zbus" …but I still had my morning bath in the lake , the temperature had gone down from 25 to 7 degrees…I decided to tank up the vehicle at "Stravino" but stay until the weather improved, I passed by Lasino & saw Dom.at his offce. he & his checked my email (I am getting used to, and almost enjoy NOT having a mobile phone) ..& returned to have brunch at a very quiet (due to the weather ; we heard of fatalities in the tirol) "clandestino" bar before a run & siesta…& write this report…I had a "pannini" then later (after another run around the lago & swim) , in the evening I "toured" the lake , taking a glass & a "miscarpone" (coffee & special mascarpone cream) whilst exchanging ideas with the very nice young bar-maid "Eliza" (who spoke good english & whose brother hopely starts UNI in Liverpool) returned to the bar to chat with barmaid "Paula"..until everyone decided about 23h to go to a party at Cavedine (the bar owner, staff, customers & I were all invited!) and as i was leaving early sunday morning & already had been in the bar all day, for once , I declined the friendly offer..but I hope to go back In september..


… try the Trentino wines often unknown outside the regions such as "Marzemino" ; Teroldigo ; Traminer & local versions of Merlot , Cabernet , Mueller, Pinot Grigio & Chardonnay – for me some of the best value-for-money wines anywhere in europe..and why not test "miscarpone" @ the piccolo principe hotel..

B &B …Albergo "floriani" ; http://www.albergofloriani.it Hotel/Restaurant ; http://www.piccoloprincipehotel.it


p.s. I have listed my "costs" below..these are "extreme" because of "circumstances" ..packing so much into a spontaneous short trip (entertaining & making contacts for benefit of my associations) ..however a very enjoyable & economic time/holiday can be experienced in these beautoful regions..



road costs;

tank (diesel)

Zwolle e35 (PB.NL)

Near Ludwigshaven (D) e30 cash

in mountains (CH) e20 (cash;no recepit)

tank Stravino/lasino ; e 40 cash

tank (near Landeck, Austria) e30 cash

tank (near Koblenz) e15 cash

parking ; Trento & St Gallen ; e11 cash

tolls ; (autostrada Bz-Tn e3 ) (Tirol(a) e8,50) = e11.50 cash

—– (total 2500 kms = e192.50)

cash out @ helgau? (D) = e200 (pb.nl)

bnl – 700 mr. moser Luca (TT on hols)


other costs;

match tichet (e20;= ch30)

various snacks/drinks in St G ; e30 (ch45)

lunch in Bad Regas (ch15 = e10)

cofffees (e5)

(Lina paid dinner with maria / dom & lina..)

coffees in Trento etc e5

dinner @ lagolo..pizzeria (polente/form/funghi) e15 cash

drinks @ Clandestino (lagolo) afternoon & evening ("robbie") dom/lina e22 cash

sat lunch @ Clandestino e7 cash


piccoloprincipehotel (e5 with eliza)

sat drinks/snacks e11 @ "clandestino" (paula)

snacks enroute aust/D; (brekkie & Mdinner) e14 cash

—–(total ; e145)

= too much <smile>?


To Jan De Gunst

Be Quick 28

To ;

Jan De Gunst

Be Quick 28


Postbus 1106

8001 BC Zwolle

Accommodatie Stadionplein 25 8025 CP Zwolle Telefoon Clubhuis 038 4531186

cc: Jan Diepenheim

cc: Haverkort

Dear Jan,

Please find enclosed invoice from Haverkort. I refer you to the post-tournament report & account sent by email on 23 June 09 to Jur (copy to yourself & others) which I expect you have read. As the conditions of the "Footy FUN & Friendship" weekend @ be quick were changed by your board (placing us in the secondary position) it was & IS OBVIOUS that you bore the maximum of income (& therefore costs) ..we have donated almost 500 euros to "KIKA" …so I enclose the invoice for you to pay. Please settle direct with Haverkort (as your delay of our post has also delayed openingf our bank account) Its sure that Haverkort will provide YOU ("be quick 28") with a proper invoice/receipt upon your payment to THEM.

PLEASE NOTE; until further notice ; Please address all correspondence to Jan Diepenheim ("ZReDS" secretary) Democratenlaan 21, 8014 VD Zwolle. and whilst writing please adviseby email to edagn@eured-san.net the planned date for the next "AGM" (annual general meeting" as I wish to plan whether to include "be quick" in future "FFF" events.



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Hiya all
EuRED , FC ZonderEigen (Be.) & ZREDS invite you to participate in a
7-a-side weekend footy tournament ; with the theme Footy FUN & Frienmdship
& to benefit childrens charity & HJC awareness in Europe..

for more info look at

http://zredszwolle.nl with video & pics of our
recent great Party & footy weekend …or email me, if U cant understand dutch ,<smile>
p.s. what about the 5-a-side weekend in MADrid (MAD – REDS) 21/24 may 2010 too!?